• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    I’ll never understand why people think the people running the DNC aren’t total fucking liars that will say anything for money.

    Beating trump isn’t hard.

    But beating him while grifting a billion dollar campaign funded by the people your voting base hates is very difficult.

    Unfortunately when confronted with the choice, the DNC has shown us three elections straight that they’ll always pick money over votes.

    So we either need to leave the party or replace leadership.

    If we don’t do either 2028 will be exactly the same as the last three elections.

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      11 hours ago

      Beating trump isn’t hard.

      He won three out of four primaries, and two out of three general elections. It seems… pretty fucking hard.

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          9 hours ago

          Well, he won his own party primaries too, and by a landslide. So it’s not just the DNC that can’t beat him. People are still trying to play by the old playbook where things like qualifications, competency, and sanity matter. Trump is out there doing something that absolutely works, telling the people whatever they want to hear, regardless of how stupid, impossible, or untrue it is.

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        10 hours ago

        Don’t you worry, you’ll have an election. Even the Germans had elections during their darkest times. That doesn’t mean you’ll have a choice though.

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        14 hours ago

        I lived thru 9/11 and 2016.

        For over 20 years everytime a republican became president I’ve been told we’ll never have another election.

        Maybe this time the wolf is real, but it’s a basic part of human psychology that more and more people will stop having a fear response everytime they hear “wolf”.

        If we really don’t have an election in 2028, we’ll have a civil war before 2032. Maybe what comes after will be better than what we have now.

        It sucks to live in interesting times, but that’s what’s happening.

        This is literally the day after the election, don’t fucking tell me it’s too late to plan how to fix shit for 2028

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          11 hours ago

          If it were like 2016 I’d be less worried but taking into account what happened with the 2020 election and now facist rhetoric has reached new heights. They want King Trump and I am worried they will get it.

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            10 hours ago

            Shit. I was more worried in 2016.

            He didn’t leave office peacefully, but he still left.

            That’s how human brains work, we avoided the worst case scenario and life moved on. So we run into the same danger, but the response is lowered.

            Which is why Dem turnout was so low this time

            I’ve been saying this would happen for a long time, lots of people were.

            The difference is the people running the DNC are just the people who can raise the most money. And the people with psychology degrees rarely have money as a priority.

            We need to start having a party run by sociologists, psychologists, hell even go back to lawyers

            The current strategy of 80s go-go Reaganites who only care about money ain’t working.

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              7 hours ago

              Why were you more worried in 2016? He literally attempted to stage a coup and it failed. That’s why he left. Did you expect him to start an armed insurrection by himself?

              I don’t remember “this may be the last election ever” being a mainstream or credible narrative for any election prior to 2020… you know… The one he tried to make the last election ever.

              Your comment is exceptionally naive, and probably the same sentiment that lead to Trumps win. Americans are completely ignorant to the reality of the situation; liberals included.

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      6 hours ago

      Find your local/state Dems, get involved with them, figure out who the conservatives are and replace them… It’s not hard, like 10 people vote in those elections… They are the ones who elect DNC leadership, take the local and state parties, take the DNC

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        5 hours ago

        Lol, you haven’t heard what the “victory fund” really is yet, have you?

        The state parties have to toe the line, or they’re abandoned.

        Terrible strategy if the plan is getting Dems in office, great move if you’re blocking any real progress in exchange for bribes donations.

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      13 hours ago

      people have been beating this drum for decades and i, for today only, am wondering if it’s having any impact despite it being completely true and easy to see.