So just 4 days ago we had huge thread about how great she is because she criticized US imperialism and immediately after that she’s actively participating in the same imperialism. Also her position on Ukraine remains afaik unchanged, still supporting that fascist and ecocidal imperial puppet. How it is even possible to reconcile, is she two different people or what?
Well, she is 21. That’s just not a lot of time to shake out all your brainworms. And often people go down one path for a while before realizing it’s connected to something else and it’s a while before they start to see the shape of the maze. Took me til… 26? 27? To fully break free from my USian programming and that was more the start of a journey than the end of one.
Hopefully she’ll do better than I will but she’s too young to write off yet. If she keeps on this she’ll figure out that climate change, Palestine, proxy wars, all of it leads back to DC, and behind DC is fascism. If we’re lucky she’ll even drag other people along while she does it.
I’ll also say; Palestine is a much easier issue to understand the large scale dynamics of than weird parliamentary politics in other countries. Really grokking what’s happening in Ukraine requires a great deal of historical background of the 20th century, plus digging all the way back through the post USSR history of Russia, Ukraine, Putin, Shock Doctrine, the OUN-B, all of it.
Hopefully she’ll get better on these things.
Washington D.C.? Das Capital?
Do not underestimate the westerners’ ability to compartmentalise this stuff.
I’m 21. Maybe it’s a skill issue 😎😎😎
I feel bad for her because of the pressure that is put on her at a young age.
Word. She’s been right under the media’s guns for a long time now.
for real. at 21 my takes were so hot they would have ignited the atmosphere and killed all life on the planet, if
I get these Facebook “memories” stuff from time to time, and it’s really cringy
Same.
She’s been walking down the line of getting rid of brainworms decades faster than I ever did. Most of us were libs once, I often still am if I’m not conscious about things.
Maybe I am giving her more grace as a fellow neurospicy, but she has consistently followed through when actually learning more. Give her time.
It’s also not easy to not be lib about this stuff somewhere like Sweden, the position isn’t only hegemonic, it’s all there is. Even in “left” spaces.
She’s supports Ukraine because she blames Russia for the invasion and the ecocide.
She needs to be educated on the Maidan Coup and the US / UK fostering Nazis and Banderites there. What they did to their own people - bombing, murdering, erasing them for resisting fascism.
My guess is that she is still surrounded by the same people that started her foray into the public eye. They are a bunch of euro socdems that are good on some issues but horrible on most, especially when it comes to countries that are enemies of the USA/West (Russia, China, DPRK, Iran etc…) Until I see her appear with someone like Prashad, I’m not gonna see her as some serious political figure.
What’s the ecocide angle? I haven’t heard about that.
This is the point when i start to seriously doubt her, because Ukraine comitted:
Ecocide along the front lines, by mass usage of depleted uranium and cluster mines
Another one by blowing up the Kakhovka dam
Officially a huge one by blowing up Nordstream, and you cannot even blame this on war (ofc we all know USA did it, but she probably should believe official version? i don’t remember if she ever commented on that)
Potentially a nuclear ecocide when they bombed Zaporozhia plant several times. They planned to capture Kursk nuclear plant, and called for nuclear strikes on Russia.
So even without all the context of nazism and imperialism and taking on a flat value she should at least bothside the war from ecological point of view but she isn’t, she’s supporting the side which does way more ecological destruction. And added context don’t work for Ukraine side also.
They will say they did all of those things in self defense as Russia invaded.
Especially blowing up Nordstream 5 months before Russian intervention, and we all know they love nuclear “self-defence” ecocides like in Japan or Bikini atoll or nearly in Zaporozhia but what does this have to do with reality?
There is a lot of environmental destruction brought with war and a very large chunk of Ukraine won’t be usable for a long time.
Ahh, yeah. There’s so many ways in which this is awful.