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I knew China was on the right track when Jack Ma started acting like a western billionaire and they disappeared him for a while.
It was funny seeing the western “leftists” suddenly stan a billionaire because their anticommunism is stronger than their anticapitalism
lol yeah that was a very good sign
I remember that, too. Though unfortunately, I’ve read he is still a member or associate of the CPC. I don’t know if that is true or not, but at least the party pulled the leash.
I doubt they have a problem with him in general, just that they obviously made it clear that they’re not going to allow him a soapbox to try and drum up support for western style liberalism. If they wanted him gone, he’d have died in an unfortunate helicopter accident. I’m guessing that they made that clear to him in so many words shortly before he went on hiatus.
That’s the feeling I get too.
Did they even imprison him, or did they just tell him to tone it down and he followed the law because he lives in a country where billionaires aren’t above it? Was it just like an American judge ordering Trump or Musk to not tweet about this or that, except for the fact that there’s actually rule of law in China so Ma obeyed the court order?
I don’t actually remember the details.
I’ve read that he is unfortunately a member or associate of the CPC, but I’m not sure how true that is. At least the party pulled the leash.
Reminds me of part of a Mao speech (albeit from 1957):
In our country, the contradiction between the working class and the national bourgeoisie comes under the category of contradictions among the people. By and large, the class struggle between the two is a class struggle within the ranks of the people, because the Chinese national bourgeoisie has a dual character. In the period of the bourgeois-democratic revolution, it had both a revolutionary and a conciliationist side to its character. In the period of the socialist revolution, exploitation of the working class for profit constitutes one side of the character of the national bourgeoisie, while its support of the Constitution and its willingness to accept socialist transformation constitute the other. The national bourgeoisie differs from the imperialists, the landlords and the bureaucrat-capitalists. The contradiction between the national bourgeoisie and the working class is one between exploiter and exploited, and is by nature antagonistic. But in the concrete conditions of China, this antagonistic contradiction between the two classes, if properly handled, can be transformed into a non-antagonistic one and be resolved by peaceful methods. However, the contradiction between the working class and the national bourgeoisie will change into a contradiction between ourselves and the enemy if we do not handle it properly and do not follow the policy of uniting with, criticizing and educating the national bourgeoisie, or if the national bourgeoisie does not accept this policy of ours.
I see a lot of this echoed in Dengism and more generally the last ~40 years of Chinese economic policy. If the national bourgeoisie doesn’t seek to overthrow the government or take power over the state, it can make some money and serve its role of helping develop the country’s means of production. But if it gets out of line, it’s not running the show and will he held to account.
Agreed.
Jack Ma has a property in the middle of New York adirondacks. Anyone know any information about that?
Apparently it was owned by one of the Rockefellers and had some crazy creepy shit going on there from what locals said; both in the past and during the present.
It’s interesting how the heading includes “potentially dangerous” but the article never follows up on that bit. I guess any story about China just has to sound scary.
It’s clearly scary for oligarchs who are used to being able to live like kings.
True true, the moment they realize rules actually do apply to them would be a bit unsettling I’m sure.
I suppose “cracking down on corruption” is a scary phrase for some of these people too.
Make the rich scared again.
And censured again. Weibo gonna censor flaunting of luxe stuff.
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This probably isn’t true, but if it is: good.
It’s probably true that flaunting wealth is no longer fashionable.
Economic worries have taken center stage as the slump in the housing market deepened, fueling pessimism among consumers. Where once was a gilded age, social media users now refer to the present era as the “garbage time of history.” Coco Li, 46, used to spend about HK$600,000 ($77,000) a year — or roughly 20% of her income — buying luxury items. After losing her job as an executive at a multinational company in Hong Kong, she’s curtailed her habit and put some of her Hermes handbags up for sale on mainland Chinese online platforms.
The things the petty bourgeoise say sometimes are just completely unhinged.
