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      How do YOU force them to have agency but let Republicans do whatever the fuck they want, then punish lefties for it?

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        What the fuck are you even talking about right now?? The democrats are in office!!

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          Who do you think is president right now? I know you probably wish it was Putin or Xi, but let’s just focus on the US candidates as they are, even if its hard. And let’s be clear: neither is a lefty, but one is much, MUCH closer than the other.

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    Why do you support terrorists?

    The Empire has a right to defend itself

    Those Rebel Terrorists were using human shields

    The ones responsible for the destruction of Alderaan were those Rebel Terrorists, we gave a very humane 30 minute evacuation warning after all

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    Vader’s death Star may be pointing right at Yavin 4, but Leia doesn’t want to support the rights of Yavin 4 natives so they’re the same

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    Death Stars don’t kill people. Traitors who won’t give up the location of the secret Rebel base kill people.

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    ‘Princess’ establishment chosen Lyin’ Leiyah is clearly just trying to turn the empire back into the corrupt old Republic and force everyone to accept all aliens including the despicable Gran who don’t deserve rights because they don’t look or act like me. I heard she was even there when Alderaan was destroyed and did nothing.

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      Plus, as a member of the Imperial Senate, she’s obviously part of The Swamp that must be drained.

      (I also hear she emigrated to Alderaan illegally.)

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    Vader didn’t blow up a planet. He didn’t stop it from getting blown up but he was more of an accessory to it.

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      Trump didn’t stop Jamal Kashoggi from getting murdered with a meat saw, so I guess they’re similar that way.

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      Yeah, all he did was help Palpatine build the Death Star, and it was Tarkin who actually gave the order. Do these anti-Vader people even understand what his role is as Sith Lord?

      These single-issue voters who refuse to vote for Vader just because of the Aderaan issue are just helping Palpatine. Why does everyone suddenly care so much about Alderaan anyway?

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        Humorless and missing the point deliberately as usual, I see.

        Meanwhile in the real world, Trump explains how he regularly phones up Netanyahu to convince him to ditch Biden’s ceasefire plan.

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          And Biden pretends to be upset about that while overriding congress to send him more weapons, completely unconditionally. Just like how he’s been unconditionally supportive of Israel his entire career.

          Don’t confuse your conspiracy theory cope that Biden or Kamala are secretly pro-Palestine, contrary to all their actions and statements, with “the real world.”

          At a certain point, arguing that they’re legitimately trying and failing to rein Netanyahu in, when he’s completely dependant on our protection, means arguing that they are so absurdly and comically incompetent that shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the levers of power for fear that they might slip on a banana peel and catch themselves on the button that launches the nukes. They’re not idiots, they’re doing it because this is what they want.

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            I love how you talk so much about the Democrats as if the Republicans wouldn’t be worse and as if Trump hasn’t admitted to phoning Netanyahu frequently to tell him not to agree to Biden’s ceasefire plan.

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              My criticism of the Democrats has nothing to do with the idea of the Republicans “not being worse.” I just believe, unlike you, that truth doesn’t stop being true when it’s inconvenient. Party loyalty has rendered you completely incapable of acknowledging reality, whether you can’t see it, or whether you do see it but won’t admit what you see.

              I’ll ask again since you refuse to answer: do you think that Biden needs Trump’s approval to stop bypassing Congress to send weapons to Israel?

              Biden shits his pants “Why would Trump do this?”

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        I think you’re going to like the part about Luke and Leia’s kiss though. I’m not going to spoil it though, ok I can’t help myself

        spoiler

        Rudy Giuliani is Luke

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      Is that the one where “Han” “upgrades” the Falcon to a Cybertruck because it “totally has more storage, bro!”

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        I’m just here imagining Luke getting his hand chopped off by the cybertruck power trunk mechanism instead of by Vader.

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    Was Leia pro blowing up Alderaan? Because Kamala is pro blowing up Palestine.

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      Nope and nope.

      Guess who’s ringing up Netanyahu telling him not to agree authenticity the ceasefire? Yes, that’s right, the nation’s most popular insurrectionist and peace hater, Donald J Trump, and guess whose geriatric genocidal actions were not mentioned by you at all in a heroic act of something I’m sure psychologists have a name for, yes that’s right, it’s that loony loopy idtiot former president, losing his marbles in public on the television, yes, it’s two for two, good old (well, ok, old at least), Donald J Trump!

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        Do you think Biden needs Trump’s approval to stop sending Netanyahu weapons?

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          I think Trump has been ringing up Netanyahu regularly to argue against Israel agreeing to Biden’s ceasefire plan, like he said he is, so Trump is working to keep the genocide in Gaza going and you can’t bring yourself to admit this or talk about it while Trump felt admits it and even boasts of it in public.

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            Why can’t both be true? Sure. Trump tells Netanyahu not to accept the ceasefire. And when Netanyahu says no, rather than doing something to further pressure him, like making the munitions we send them conditional on a ceasefire, he just gives up and sends more bombs.

            We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of options! We asked him nicely to stop and he told us no. :(

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            I’ll admit it right now. Not that it matters why Netanyahu is refusing to negotiate.

            You seem to be under the impression that “negotiation” means “asking nicely and giving up if they say no.” If Netanyahu refuses to cooperate, you stop giving him weapons until he does. Obviously. How bad do you have to be at negotiating to not realize that?

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              So you admit that Trump is actively working to prolong the genocide in Gaza and then you ignore that and come straight back with your weird logic that the people who are trying to stop him are culpable and the people trying to get him to kill more gets a pass from you, and you want me to believe you care about Gaza?! You do not, you’re just cynically using it as a political football to try and win the election for stupid, senile and angry old man Donald “finish them” “best king of Israel” Trump.

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      Nope and nope.

      Guess who’s ringing up Netanyahu telling him not to agree authenticity the ceasefire? Yes, that’s right, the nation’s most popular insurrectionist and peace hater, Donald J Trump, and guess whose geriatric genocidal actions were not mentioned by you at all in a heroic act of something I’m sure psychologists have a name for, yes that’s right, it’s that loony loopy idtiot former president, losing his marbles in public on the television, yes, it’s two for two, good old (well, ok, old at least), Donald J Trump!

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        Anyone and everyone who got taken in by that particular piece of propaganda is a grade A moron.

        Why are you accepting the framing that Israel NEEDS TO AGREE to a ceasefire rather than it’s something that can be imposed on it by refusing to send more weapons?

        Because you’re dumb.

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    In this analogy, did Princess Leia build the Death Star and blow up Alderaan? Ridiculous levels of whitewashing.