Lemmy.ml is all about this right now. The idiots… They claim to want things to lean more left, then they help the right with their narrative.
Ever since coming here (Lemmy) I’ve started to develop a solid bias against the far left. They are defeating their own goals when they do this shit.
For the record, I’m independent but I vote blue because the GOP is insane.
I wouldn’t call ml far left.
Hi, I’m bloodfart. You may remember me from such posts as:
“I voted for party for socialism and liberation and you can too!”
And:
“They’re running Claudia de la Cruz on a platform of Palestinian statehood and an end to arms shipments to Israel”.
But today I’m here to talk to you about how psl is eligible for enough electoral votes to win a landslide victory.
You see, people working on behalf of one of the two major parties often deploy the argument that a third party can’t win, so you shouldn’t vote for them. Due to the tireless work of politically active, committed anti genocide Americans just like yourself, psl can get 474 electoral votes this November!
So get out there and vote psl! She can win if you vote for her!
She can win if you vote for her!
What the literal fuck are you smoking
I see the bad faith actors making a final push.
And look! Here’s one now!
The PSL is a trash option. It has a barely above zero chance to successfully scratch its own ass let alone become a viable candidate. And in the event that they accidentally manage to get themselves elected, all their batshit promises they’ve made will never see the light of day because they don’t actually work when pressed against reality.
And reality is where we live.
DO NOT LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO SPOIL THE ELECTION.
They are not here in good faith.
One batshit promise that a president de la Cruz could make good on is not supplying weapons to israel by executive order, conditioning non military aid on a ceasefire and halting aid approved by congress due to its illegality under international and domestic law using the power of the justice department.
Harris could make good on that too, but Harris is in favor of the genocide so she won’t.
Ranked choice baybeeee!
For anyone who honestly believes in third party stuff: try supporting ranked voting at the local and state level. Once we have more ranked voting at local and state levels, it will be easier to push that at the federal level, which is the best way to solve strategic voting problems in presidential elections.
Nobody would support ranked voting for presidential elections if that’s the first time they hear about it. But if people use it already in local elections, and see that it works better, then extending it to presidential elections is a logic choice.
Bruh. Jill Stein isn’t even on the ballot in my state. She’s got no chance.
Despite my earlier organizing, there are no independents on anything down ballot.
I live in a swing state so, sorry De la Cruz, I can’t vote for ya.
ngl, feels like holding in the worst fart. Can’t wait to start complaining again!
Funny you should choose this meme picture of a Pakistani cricket fan when their third party actually succeeded because people didn’t fall for the usual two party propaganda of “they’ll never succeed until we first fix X problem”
Honest question. What do you do for someone who’s sole issue right now is to stop the genocide? There’s only one candidate going for that afaik, and it’s not Harris or Trump.
Who would that be?
Jill Stein? Unless I’m wrong. It’s nuanced, but her position is to stop the genocide.
You know she has no authority to do anything about it right? She’s only campaigning on this issue because she knows damn well she won’t get elected. This flimsy promise is enough to keep many people locked up from voting for anyone besides her and her baseless savior complex nonsense. All she is doing is siphoning a lot of votes from the one person that will actually be given the authority to change things.
The Palestinian genocide, she doesn’t give two fucks about the Ukrainian one though.
I’d bet money she doesn’t care about the Palestine either, but it sure does take votes away from Harris.
Yeah. I agree.
And more importantly, do they have a chance in hell of actually accomplishing anything meaningful beyond lip service?
Under FPÐP, if it isn’t eiðer of ðose candidates, ðen ðere is no candidate.
You’re just voting to be complicit to ð degree everyone else chooses be it less or more.
People have been talking about third parties for months, but there’s always an excuse
Every election there is some excuse as to why we can not pivot to third parties. To me the bad-faith actors are all these clowns who say oh lets not bring it up til we think its appropriate. Like when is it gonna be appropriate? Some of us were for the likes of Perot and Nader, its been literally 3 decades of people saying hush up third parties. Like at this point, you can only assume these people love the status quo, and they are willing to fight any deviation from it.
Seriously though. Liberals should focus their energy on turning rightoids onto their side as opposed to trying to shame leftists if they actually cared about things like genocide or the environment. They won’t because they’re cowards and would rather shame the left endlessly and claim to not understand why every election the left doesn’t see why “ThIs TiMe ItS dIfFeReNt” every election for like 70 years is annoying to leftists.
you’re in good company with the greatest contemporary minds this world has to offer; remind yourself of that fact if you ever wonder if you’re doing the right thing:
here’s martin luther king jr saying the same thing you did:
… the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.
The Simpsons in 1996 sounding just like the people in this thread.
bad faith “anarchist” actors on lemmy?, gwon
Anarchists would oppose duopolist monocracy all year.
Authoritarians on Lemmy are likely too diverse and disunited for this comment to use that sort of sarcasm as a display for the spread of false flag anarchism.
As an anarchist I oppose the existence of nation states altogether.
Well, it’s good to aim high. Opposition, i.e. the destruction part isn’t enough, we have to do the build part too. There simply isn’t a critical population in Western/Northern countries yet. We don’t grow Napoleons.
My strategy is like a strangler fig. Every empire decays and dies and hurts a lot of people. If we build up mutual aid and other systems to keep people from dying when the empire crumbles we’ll skip the regressive period that generally comes after.
