the nazi swastika we all know is called hakenkreuz and is rotated a bit.
Can we not?
Nazis absolutely used the 90 degree swastika. 12345 (the literal Nuremberg rally in that last pic btw.)
Are these people fascists? Are they Buddhists or Hindus or Jains? Are they using traditional folk symbols of their culture?
I think that it’s a hard sell to say that anyone in Eastern Europe in the 2020s would be unaware of the swastika carrying strong fascist connotations. Regardless of the reason why they are displaying a swastika it’s an incontrovertible fact that the Nazi Party also used 90° swastikas alongside the more common 45° ones.
wow, the 90deg swastika has been used far more broadly than i thought. there is that lesson i guess. i find myself that i hold too much hope for certain people, but unfortunately you are correct. fuck this entire situation, nazis coming out of woodworks everywhere and world just watches it happen and even give applauses
I should apologize, comrade. I have been a bit burned out on social media, especially r*ddit, because I feel like I’ve been screaming into the void over the fact that Ukraine absolutely has a serious problem with fascism. This means that I was unnecessarily harsh in my response to you.
It’s been breaking my brain trying to get people to listen to the fact that, although most countries have a fascist or circa-fascist element, there is a huge difference when there is institutionalized fascism in a state (e.g. Azov et al.) and that “not getting much traction in the elections” does not mean there is no fascist threat in Ukraine; the NSDAP didn’t perform well in elections and had to seize power via other means, including by mobilizing the state and fascists to repress and intimidate voters - exactly what was developing in Ukraine before this recent development with the Russian offensive.
I know that you didn’t mean to misrepresent the facts so I hope you’ll excuse my overreaction to a narrative that was unintentionally carrying water for denying/minimizing the fascist threat in Ukraine. Please don’t take my exasperation personally.
Can we not?
Nazis absolutely used the 90 degree swastika. 1 2 3 4 5 (the literal Nuremberg rally in that last pic btw.)
Are these people fascists? Are they Buddhists or Hindus or Jains? Are they using traditional folk symbols of their culture?
I think that it’s a hard sell to say that anyone in Eastern Europe in the 2020s would be unaware of the swastika carrying strong fascist connotations. Regardless of the reason why they are displaying a swastika it’s an incontrovertible fact that the Nazi Party also used 90° swastikas alongside the more common 45° ones.
wow, the 90deg swastika has been used far more broadly than i thought. there is that lesson i guess. i find myself that i hold too much hope for certain people, but unfortunately you are correct. fuck this entire situation, nazis coming out of woodworks everywhere and world just watches it happen and even give applauses
I should apologize, comrade. I have been a bit burned out on social media, especially r*ddit, because I feel like I’ve been screaming into the void over the fact that Ukraine absolutely has a serious problem with fascism. This means that I was unnecessarily harsh in my response to you.
It’s been breaking my brain trying to get people to listen to the fact that, although most countries have a fascist or circa-fascist element, there is a huge difference when there is institutionalized fascism in a state (e.g. Azov et al.) and that “not getting much traction in the elections” does not mean there is no fascist threat in Ukraine; the NSDAP didn’t perform well in elections and had to seize power via other means, including by mobilizing the state and fascists to repress and intimidate voters - exactly what was developing in Ukraine before this recent development with the Russian offensive.
I know that you didn’t mean to misrepresent the facts so I hope you’ll excuse my overreaction to a narrative that was unintentionally carrying water for denying/minimizing the fascist threat in Ukraine. Please don’t take my exasperation personally.
My apologies.