• Bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.orgOP
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    Zelensky didn’t choose to be invaded. Wtf are you on about

    Even assuming that this is true - I didn’t say that he did.
    What he did choose to do though - was turning country into a mass prison and kidnapping people on the streets and sending them into the meat ginder (so, murdering them).

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        Except Putin is actually doing those things. Ukraine has a draft, which is not great, but isn’t kidnapping people off the streets. That’s completely disingenuous at best.

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          The number of people having no idea what’s going on is too damn high. This has been reported by many mainstream Western media outlets for months.

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          The Kyiv regime most definitely kidnaps people on the streets. Wherever they can find them, really. It’s conscription.

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          Ukraine has a draft, which is not great, but isn’t kidnapping people off the streets. That’s completely disingenuous at best.

          Yeah, Zelensky’s regime definitely doesn’t kidnap people off the streets. There are no masked people hunting people on the streets and putting them into vans without plates. Videos about that happening almost every day, especially so in last week are all fakes and Russian propaganda (even when Ukrainian sources write about it).

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            There are no masked people hunting people on the streets and putting them into vans without plates. Videos about that happening almost every day, especially so in last week are all fakes and Russian propaganda (even when Ukrainian sources write about it).

            The source you linked doesn’t support your claims at all.

            Some people got arrested relating to not following the law relating to the draft. Yes, that’s terrifying. It’s still not even remotely close to what you are claiming.

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              The source you linked doesn’t support your claims at all.

              Doesn’t support which of my claims? Just scroll to the comments, I’ve archived videos for you there. People in masks and with rifles, throwing people out of cars in the middle of a road, beating people to the loss of consciousness, student beaten for answering a call from his mother, it’s all there.

              Unmarked vans? Here, enjoy your participation in genociding Ukrainians!

              https://files.catbox.moe/4m2o3d.mp4
              https://files.catbox.moe/wszg2t.mp4

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        Yeah, I guess you’re actually right about that, when you look at what Zelensky does to Ukrainians - it indeed sounds quite similar to the western propaganda about what Putin/Russia does…

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          Dont even bother with those people. They are not uninformed, they know what is happening and they lie on purpose

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            Dont even bother with those people.

            But what else can I do? :(
            It’s my family and friends that could be next. I should at least try to persuade people to stop that…