Shouldn’t Jill Stein be busy giving HJs to her GOP masters by now? She did her job. Everyone has dropped the act. Don’t know why she’s still out here pretending to be a candidate.
She’s fucking siphoning votes away from the candidate closest to her supposed views, in a close election where the concept of democracy is at stake. Beyond-obviously. You think you just can just handwave facts away but you never will succeed at that with your campaign of bullshit. You want to imply the threat is that she can win which is laughable. Pretty much all of us see who Shill Stein is.
I don’t understand what point you’re making. My point was clear-- if you actually wanted a small fraction of Stein’s ideas to have a chance, you’d vote for Harris. Lemmy users can pretend all day that spoilers candidates aren’t real but that’s ridiculous, of course they are.
Harris is running to the right of Biden in 2020. The point is to emphasize how far she actually is from Stein and that you’re using “closer” in a really loose way to hand-wave the gulf between them. Vote for Harris if you want, but I want you to know you are voting for Hitler-lite to stop Hitler-delux.
I’ve never quite understood this obsession with telling everyone how right wing they are all the time as a singular focus. It’s incredibly unhelpful and annoying. Kamala Harris wants to do some left wing things. America is right wing generally, no one needs you to remind us condescendingly every 45 seconds
She’s not a threat, she’s running a spoiler campaign to siphon votes. She’s deliberately exploiting a system to affect an outcome.
That’s like me showing up outside your house and job and plastering “UniversalMonk wants to diddle your kids” posters everywhere. Whether it’s true or not is irrelevant if someone believes the bullshit and subscribes to the idea.
Being a threat would actually take effort to run a real campaign with real ideas.
She’s deliberately exploiting a system to affect an outcome.
Then that sounds like Democrats think she’s a threat. If she wasn’t a threat, all of that would be a non-issue. I mean, they have spent money on new ads against her. If they didn’t think she was a thread, they wouldn’t have done that.
And to your point, if you did that to me with your signs, I would definitely view you as a threat. Regardless of your motivation or the falsehood.
But legit or not, if she wasn’t a threat, they’d ignore her. And they are not ignoring her, they just released new ads against her yesterday. So obviously they see her as threat.
She’s a spoiler, not a threat. A threat requires her to hold actual power, which she is not capable of doing without the GOP in her back pocket. She won’t win, she can literally only take votes from the two primary candidates, like every other third party candidate (yes, including whichever flavor you claim to be supporting this afternoon). The Dems are worried about Kamala losing by 100 votes because idiots think that they’re getting a one up by voting third party, when actually all they’re doing is pissing away their vote and empowering a Trump victory.
Jill Stein is a GOP operative. That’s all she is. She doesn’t care about Gaza, the climate, or anything else, because if she did she would drop out to avoid a spoiler that would ruin all of those things due to a Trump win. She’s a tool for Trump.
ETA: Let me be clear, I don’t give a shit who you, Monk vote for, because you clearly are already a lost cause. My comments to you are always for everyone else who actually cares about not electing a fascist, and never you. Sorry if I confused you by thinking I care about your personal vote or thoughts.
Shouldn’t Jill Stein be busy giving HJs to her GOP masters by now? She did her job. Everyone has dropped the act. Don’t know why she’s still out here pretending to be a candidate.
Apparently the Democrats still see her as a threat, since they are posting ads about her now.
She’s fucking siphoning votes away from the candidate closest to her supposed views, in a close election where the concept of democracy is at stake. Beyond-obviously. You think you just can just handwave facts away but you never will succeed at that with your campaign of bullshit. You want to imply the threat is that she can win which is laughable. Pretty much all of us see who Shill Stein is.
“Closest” is doing a lot of work there.
Sounds like you think she’s pretty aligned with trump then
She’s kind of ideologically incoherent and I’m certainly no supporter of hers, but she is far to the left of both of them.
Hitler-lite is closer to her position than Hitler-delux, but “closer” is doing a lot of work there.
I don’t understand what point you’re making. My point was clear-- if you actually wanted a small fraction of Stein’s ideas to have a chance, you’d vote for Harris. Lemmy users can pretend all day that spoilers candidates aren’t real but that’s ridiculous, of course they are.
Harris is running to the right of Biden in 2020. The point is to emphasize how far she actually is from Stein and that you’re using “closer” in a really loose way to hand-wave the gulf between them. Vote for Harris if you want, but I want you to know you are voting for Hitler-lite to stop Hitler-delux.
Irrelevant exaggeration for distracting from my valid point. I’m glad you feel more smug now though
I’ve never quite understood this obsession with telling everyone how right wing they are all the time as a singular focus. It’s incredibly unhelpful and annoying. Kamala Harris wants to do some left wing things. America is right wing generally, no one needs you to remind us condescendingly every 45 seconds
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She’s not a threat, she’s running a spoiler campaign to siphon votes. She’s deliberately exploiting a system to affect an outcome.
That’s like me showing up outside your house and job and plastering “UniversalMonk wants to diddle your kids” posters everywhere. Whether it’s true or not is irrelevant if someone believes the bullshit and subscribes to the idea.
Being a threat would actually take effort to run a real campaign with real ideas.
Then that sounds like Democrats think she’s a threat. If she wasn’t a threat, all of that would be a non-issue. I mean, they have spent money on new ads against her. If they didn’t think she was a thread, they wouldn’t have done that.
And to your point, if you did that to me with your signs, I would definitely view you as a threat. Regardless of your motivation or the falsehood.
A piece of shit can’t be a threat, from my understanding.
Well, the Democratic party seems to disagree with you, hence the recent ads. Thanks!
Wanna keep pretending this doesn’t matter?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoiler_effect
They’re calling her out for what she is, which is not a legit candidate.
But legit or not, if she wasn’t a threat, they’d ignore her. And they are not ignoring her, they just released new ads against her yesterday. So obviously they see her as threat.
She’s a spoiler, not a threat. A threat requires her to hold actual power, which she is not capable of doing without the GOP in her back pocket. She won’t win, she can literally only take votes from the two primary candidates, like every other third party candidate (yes, including whichever flavor you claim to be supporting this afternoon). The Dems are worried about Kamala losing by 100 votes because idiots think that they’re getting a one up by voting third party, when actually all they’re doing is pissing away their vote and empowering a Trump victory.
Jill Stein is a GOP operative. That’s all she is. She doesn’t care about Gaza, the climate, or anything else, because if she did she would drop out to avoid a spoiler that would ruin all of those things due to a Trump win. She’s a tool for Trump.
ETA: Let me be clear, I don’t give a shit who you, Monk vote for, because you clearly are already a lost cause. My comments to you are always for everyone else who actually cares about not electing a fascist, and never you. Sorry if I confused you by thinking I care about your personal vote or thoughts.
More like pre-emptive blame shifting. Jill Stein voters aren’t going to win or lose this election.
People who vote for her would just stay home and not vote if she wasn’t on the ballot.
The issue is Palestine. It’s one of the things young voters mostly care about. And the administrations position on it isn’t going to draw out voters.
I have a bridge to sell you
Many Nader voters would disagree.
Actually, that’s a great fucking point. And very accurate. Thank you!