• Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    This is the third update in like six months that is horribly broken. There was a windows 10 update that wouldn’t install because the recovery partition that Microsoft’s installer created was too small. The prior win 11 update just won’t install for lots of people and there’s no real rhyme or reason. Now this crap.

    They just don’t give a shit anymore. Microsoft had a great run folks, time to move on.

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      I’m honestly waiting for a crowdstrike level BSOD from one of their updates at some point. At that level, corporations would recover in the same way they did from crowdstrike, but consumers who didn’t understand how to roll back, or restore from backup, restore windows, etc would be livid and hopefully it would create some awareness on better understanding and control of the products you buy and use

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        Except most of those people who don’t know enough to recover most likely also use the default “all your data are belong to OneDrive” and thus won’t lose absolutely everything and no one group of livid people will both be livid enough and big enough at the same time for a lot to change…

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      Part of my job is keeping all of the endpoints my work manages up to date with patch compliance. I’ve had to create exceptions for the past two windows 11 updates because they won’t run on most machines for no reason. It’s been a pain in the ass. I can’t just add the machines to the exception list without doing basic troubleshooting because “procedure” and I’ve spent so much time doing absolutely unnecessary shit.

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      Remember the dozens of times a Windows 10 update could potentially wipe your personal data?

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      I have avoided Win 11 by disabling TPM in BIOS. Because I expect MS would eventually figure out some way to install 11 otherwise.

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        Just so you know, if your UEFI isn’t password protected, Windows can change settings in there. I haven’t heard of that ever happening but I wouldn’t be surprised if it would some day.

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      That’s not even counting the ones that make your user experience worse on purpose

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      I’d say they started the misstepping after they “fixed” Vista with windows 7. After that, they tried to hard instead of slow rolling. Windows 10 was good but 11 is just…windows 8 again.

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          Lol look who forgot about Win 98, the version so bad they made an SE version with a free upgrade.

          MS has been alternating good releases and bad releases for most of my life.

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              Wonder what’s next for Microsoft to fuck up. I was the equivalent of Linux minimal but for windows 11… I guess I want server core.

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                Its all mostly moot to me. I have a windows 10 drive in my computer. Its full of old games I might move back over and play again. I haven’t booted it at all this year. I work on winblows at work and come home to Linux. Its been that way since for twenty years.

                At work I block a lot of ‘telemetry’ including microsoft. I’ve considered a full asn block of microsoft for user machines since I use WSUS. Microsoft has decided to depreciate it. Probably due to me stopping them from installing office 365 trials and copilot garbage. I’m sure I’m not the only one doing that. Far too much garbage for me to trust them at home.

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                  Duuude, my WSUS has been miserable to work with. I switched most of what I can get away with to PDQ deploy. My office setting will not allow copilot or 365. Im doing my W11 deployment this week and last, it’s been fine. But WSUS going down is gonna make things way harder. But apparently it’ll still work, it just won’t be developed anymore.

                  Microsoft won though …I’m pricing out intune and azure hybrid systems now.

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        Windows has always had broken versions. The old advice was to always skip every other version.

        NT, Millennium, Vista, 8… 10… 11… More misses than hits really. And the bad updates are turning hits into misses.

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          That list mixes NT kernel OS’s with Win95 OS’s to support a bad hypothesis.

          The NT line is:

          NT 3.1, NT 3.51, NT 4, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Vista, 7,8, 10.

          NT 4, 2000, and XP were all great. Vista was good on good hardware. 7 was good. 8 was bad, 10 good, 11 bad.

          If you take the 95 path it’s 95 good, 98 good, Me bad.

          The only pattern is 7 good, 8 bad, 10 good, 11 bad.

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            Anyone who says NT was ever bad is out of their mind. That was the thing that saved Windows since 95’s kernel wasn’t modern. Anything that crashed took the entire system down. Yeah, that was fun times kiddos.

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                Anything past 98 was/is NT. My point is NT’s kernel is actually quite good, it’s the rest that people complain about.

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                    I don’t count ME, that was basically 98SE as a hot garbage patch. I’ll concede on 98SE, that was the best of that kernel and I do have found memories of it in the good old Unreal (not engine) days.

                    Also realize that I HATE Windows. Too much legacy that no one allows them to dump and then complains that it’s got a bad UI. Personally, my favorite is 11. I’m a macOS/*nix lover but I’m forced to use 11 at work. I appreciate Microsoft unifying the UI into something that doesn’t look and work like a decade old system. But then it still has problems like system search being abysmal, the registry still getting clogged with garbage, wake from sleep being 10 seconds or more long (even on high end equipment). It’s just, ancient at this point. There’s no good reason our personal devices give a much better experience these days.