• chaogomu@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Windows has always had broken versions. The old advice was to always skip every other version.

    NT, Millennium, Vista, 8… 10… 11… More misses than hits really. And the bad updates are turning hits into misses.

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      2 months ago

      That list mixes NT kernel OS’s with Win95 OS’s to support a bad hypothesis.

      The NT line is:

      NT 3.1, NT 3.51, NT 4, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Vista, 7,8, 10.

      NT 4, 2000, and XP were all great. Vista was good on good hardware. 7 was good. 8 was bad, 10 good, 11 bad.

      If you take the 95 path it’s 95 good, 98 good, Me bad.

      The only pattern is 7 good, 8 bad, 10 good, 11 bad.

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        2 months ago

        Anyone who says NT was ever bad is out of their mind. That was the thing that saved Windows since 95’s kernel wasn’t modern. Anything that crashed took the entire system down. Yeah, that was fun times kiddos.

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            1 month ago

            Anything past 98 was/is NT. My point is NT’s kernel is actually quite good, it’s the rest that people complain about.

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                1 month ago

                I don’t count ME, that was basically 98SE as a hot garbage patch. I’ll concede on 98SE, that was the best of that kernel and I do have found memories of it in the good old Unreal (not engine) days.

                Also realize that I HATE Windows. Too much legacy that no one allows them to dump and then complains that it’s got a bad UI. Personally, my favorite is 11. I’m a macOS/*nix lover but I’m forced to use 11 at work. I appreciate Microsoft unifying the UI into something that doesn’t look and work like a decade old system. But then it still has problems like system search being abysmal, the registry still getting clogged with garbage, wake from sleep being 10 seconds or more long (even on high end equipment). It’s just, ancient at this point. There’s no good reason our personal devices give a much better experience these days.

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                  1 month ago

                  If Me is a 98 patch then 8 is a patch too.

                  11 is bad primarily because of privacy. There are also problems like Control Panel and Settings are still separate with overlapping controls. You never know where to look. It’s been 12 years of confusion.

                  There are also minor annoyances like the start bar can’t be moved to the sides. They coded that into Windows 95 in a few months decades ago but can’t add it after 3 years now.