• SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    I’d say they started the misstepping after they “fixed” Vista with windows 7. After that, they tried to hard instead of slow rolling. Windows 10 was good but 11 is just…windows 8 again.

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        Lol look who forgot about Win 98, the version so bad they made an SE version with a free upgrade.

        MS has been alternating good releases and bad releases for most of my life.

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            Wonder what’s next for Microsoft to fuck up. I was the equivalent of Linux minimal but for windows 11… I guess I want server core.

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              Its all mostly moot to me. I have a windows 10 drive in my computer. Its full of old games I might move back over and play again. I haven’t booted it at all this year. I work on winblows at work and come home to Linux. Its been that way since for twenty years.

              At work I block a lot of ‘telemetry’ including microsoft. I’ve considered a full asn block of microsoft for user machines since I use WSUS. Microsoft has decided to depreciate it. Probably due to me stopping them from installing office 365 trials and copilot garbage. I’m sure I’m not the only one doing that. Far too much garbage for me to trust them at home.

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                Duuude, my WSUS has been miserable to work with. I switched most of what I can get away with to PDQ deploy. My office setting will not allow copilot or 365. Im doing my W11 deployment this week and last, it’s been fine. But WSUS going down is gonna make things way harder. But apparently it’ll still work, it just won’t be developed anymore.

                Microsoft won though …I’m pricing out intune and azure hybrid systems now.

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      Windows has always had broken versions. The old advice was to always skip every other version.

      NT, Millennium, Vista, 8… 10… 11… More misses than hits really. And the bad updates are turning hits into misses.

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        That list mixes NT kernel OS’s with Win95 OS’s to support a bad hypothesis.

        The NT line is:

        NT 3.1, NT 3.51, NT 4, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Vista, 7,8, 10.

        NT 4, 2000, and XP were all great. Vista was good on good hardware. 7 was good. 8 was bad, 10 good, 11 bad.

        If you take the 95 path it’s 95 good, 98 good, Me bad.

        The only pattern is 7 good, 8 bad, 10 good, 11 bad.

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          Anyone who says NT was ever bad is out of their mind. That was the thing that saved Windows since 95’s kernel wasn’t modern. Anything that crashed took the entire system down. Yeah, that was fun times kiddos.

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              Anything past 98 was/is NT. My point is NT’s kernel is actually quite good, it’s the rest that people complain about.

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                  I don’t count ME, that was basically 98SE as a hot garbage patch. I’ll concede on 98SE, that was the best of that kernel and I do have found memories of it in the good old Unreal (not engine) days.

                  Also realize that I HATE Windows. Too much legacy that no one allows them to dump and then complains that it’s got a bad UI. Personally, my favorite is 11. I’m a macOS/*nix lover but I’m forced to use 11 at work. I appreciate Microsoft unifying the UI into something that doesn’t look and work like a decade old system. But then it still has problems like system search being abysmal, the registry still getting clogged with garbage, wake from sleep being 10 seconds or more long (even on high end equipment). It’s just, ancient at this point. There’s no good reason our personal devices give a much better experience these days.

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                    If Me is a 98 patch then 8 is a patch too.

                    11 is bad primarily because of privacy. There are also problems like Control Panel and Settings are still separate with overlapping controls. You never know where to look. It’s been 12 years of confusion.

                    There are also minor annoyances like the start bar can’t be moved to the sides. They coded that into Windows 95 in a few months decades ago but can’t add it after 3 years now.