• Sanctus@lemmy.world
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    It was awkward and racist, but if you watch the video the crowd cheers as he instantly relates it to money. I’m tellin’ ya, we’re fucked if every Dem and Trump hater dont come out of the woodworks to put this guy in his place. His support is way more entrenched than Lemmy will have you believe. We have to descend upon the polls like the Golden Horde.

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      I was shocked to hear my next door neighbor last night tell me “be prepared if Kah-mala wins. They think January 6th was bad? That was a drunk frat party compared to what’s coming. She never even got the nomination. I got my guns ready and I know people with more than that. If these democrats steal the election in November, you better be ready. There’s going to be blood in the streets.”

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        She never even got the nomination

        Well, she did though. There was a whole convention for it. But of course facts don’t poll well with that demographic.

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          “They didn’t even vote for her, they voted for the other guy in the primaries.”

          Me complaining about how fucked up two-party primaries are in the first place

          “It’s in the constitution! They claim this is a democra-…”

          Me tuning out until his stupid words turned into violent words

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          The convention didn’t have the right color fringe on their flag, so it doesn’t count. Or something, I dunno.

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        compared to what’s coming […] got my guns ready […] blood in the streets

        Never ceases to amaze me how people boast about “what’s coming” like they wouldn’t be the first to turn into cannon fodder were something to actually happen

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        I’m not saying they’re not going to try, but it will be much harder for them to do anything like they did last time on Jan. 6th. They had police, the DOJ, local officials and all kinds of state help last time while trump was still in office. This time, a lot of them have been put in jail and are certainly on lists. You have to be willing to put your world on the line and can’t claim innocence, so you’d have to be an idiot to try anything. I understand how it feels to be surrounded by the worst of them, but I really don’t think that’s the deal.

        January 6th and certifications are a known issue. I’m more worried about domestic terrorism from the anger. Hopefully they’re loud about what they’re planning, the current administrations seems to take that stuff seriously.

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    I love how this dude refuses to acually run against Kamala. It not a black man, it’s not Obama, you’re running against doofus, it’s a Black Woman. And, unless you’re a police officer, that’s at least 10x scarier for you.

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      What’s to run against? It’s an election entirely on aesthetic. Do you want to old fat cat cigar smoking business dude or the lean mean latte sipping girl boss to rubber stamp our next genocide shipment to Israel and blame China for climate change?

      Maybe we get a SCOTUS judge to start issuing 5-4 rulings against fundamental democratic principles instead of a 6-3, if we’re lucky.

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        As much as I know Kamala is the status quo which is not my bag either for many reasons (genocide being one), I know things can be much worse. And, unless you’re an accelerationist (doubtful from a .world-er), isn’t it better to not give ultimate power over genocide or expulsion of immigrants to this supreme egomaniac?

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          And shifting the balance of SCOTUS for the better compared to ending democracy to install an octogenarian fascist is practically the same thing. Both sides, amirite?

          You have a flawed candidate, and one of the worst in history, people - understand what’s on the line, and stop drawing false equivalencies.

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          isn’t it better to not give ultimate power over genocide or expulsion of immigrants to this supreme egomaniac?

          Unfortunately, you’ve got a Democrat running who is openly courting John Negroponte, Jeff Flake, and the Cheneys.

          If Harris puts Liz Cheney into a cabinet position, like State or Intelligence or DHS, that’s exactly where we end up. We’ve just traded a loud borish egomaniac for a quieter and more sophisticated one.

          Even if she doesn’t, there’s a murderers row of liberal-ish insiders who seem perfectly content to join shooting wars with Iran, Pakistan, Venezuela, China, half a dozen African nations, Mexico… Nevermind that proxy war with Russia we’re already in.

          unless you’re an accelerationist

          Accelerationism isn’t a philosophy, it’s a coping mechanism. You get to pretend enshittification was your plan all along and not a disaster fully outside your control.

          It’s the 😂 emoji of political thought.

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            I get what you’re saying, and I agree, but at this juncture, there’s nothing to be done. We only get a duopoly because of our voting system. It’s shit, we should change it.

            What’s your political alignment, friend?

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              We only get a duopoly because of our voting system.

              We don’t have a duopoly. We have a pair of regional monopolies. And it’s not the voting system that gives us candidates like Eric Adams or Mike Johnson or Joe Manchin. These are the consequence of a fully captured election system.

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              He was murdered in 2020

              In Minnesota, under Governor Walz and Mayor Jacob Frey. When protesters over the killing began to march through the streets, Walz and Frey responded by releasing the National Guard to crack heads and jail people by the hundred.

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                Dude, we get it, you aren’t going to vote for either. But you don’t need to pretend the GOP isn’t criticizing Walz for not being violent enough towards protestors.

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                  But you don’t need to pretend the GOP isn’t criticizing Walz for not being violent enough towards protestors.

                  My problem is with liberals who keep insisting the Dems have a sound electoral strategy when they ratchet the violence up.

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    While he is a racist POS, this quote is edited from what he really said. Here’s the context and full clip on snopes:

    While telling a story about Air Force One and the call sign for when a U.S. president is aboard the aircraft, Trump referenced its age and also former President Barack Obama, telling the BCF audience, “I love this great equipment. Although the plane’s 32 years old, I ordered new ones, and I saved $1.7 billion from what Obama was willing to pay. I have to tell you, [he’s a] Black president, but I got $1.7 billion less. Would you rather have the Black president or the white president who got $1.7 billion off the price? I think they want the white guy right now. Got $1.7 billion off the price.”

    https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/10/11/trump-black-president-white-president/

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      That context doesn’t change the meaning even slightly. If anything it makes it worse. He’s talking about an issue which is not related to race in any way, but he injects race into it. It shows exactly how he sees every aspect of the world.

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        I agreethat the full clip is just as damning. Which is why editing it to be misleading is unnecessary and counterproductive

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        We’re still not seeing the full context. I assume this was part of a wider conversation about the role of race in politics.

        He’s making the point that a president’s actions matter more to voters (specifically black voters in this case) than a president’s race, which isn’t a bad point. (And I guess that’s what the audience is cheering for.)

        I’m not a fan of Trump, but I’m also not a fan of taking things out of context.

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        I mean, he was speaking at the Black Conservative Federation. It’s sorta relevant just given the venue.

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          That’s really just the cherry on the shit sundae, unnecessarily bringing race into the conversation just for the sake of racism, and you’re being racist against the crowd you’re speaking to. I mean, I’m sure there’s plenty of self-haters amongst that group who see themselves as “one of the good ones” and don’t have a problem with it, but still.

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    every time I hear the phrase ‘quite part out loud’ I’m reminded that despite everything he still has a chance.

    anyone who thinks the quite part survived his presidency is a danger to themselves and their country.

    the whole game plan has been sensory overload from day 1 of his presidency, pay attention idiots.

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      It truly does just boggle the mind. Worst part is he’s got way more than a chance. He’s trying his absolute best to fuck things up six ways to Sunday and it just doesn’t seem to do absolutely anything. It’s kinda wild.

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      The strongest memory of the Trump presidency was an exhausting series of scandals as he did this that and the other illegal thing. Felt like every single day some new leak or expose would be posted of something incredibly illegal he did, usually within the last 4 weeks before the article

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      Last I saw the odds the bookmakers had them even (have they changed since the hurricane?)

      Just checked again. Trump is odds on to win

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      Yes, they conserve the freedom of black people, gotta ration out that finite resource or else no one gets any! /s

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          Dunno why you can’t view the video. It’s 13 seconds long, and he says:

          “Would you rather have the black president or the white president who got 1.7 Billion off the price … I think they want the white guy”

          I don’t know what price he’s referring to (I’m not American).

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            wackadoo.

            okay, thanks, I’ll try it on my computer, maybe it’s a platform issue with that site.

            I believe the quote and you, I just find that idiot so literally incredible, as in unbelievable, that I have to watch and say these stupid things in person.

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    theyve been in the high seats for too long. their cockiness is reaching a fever pitch. gonna take more than a simple removed slap to teach them

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    sadly, erasure is not an option. been tried. best we can manage is kicking him out of the country.