Endorsement of Stein and Butch Ware comes as Muslims channel anger over US support for Israel into supporting third parties

The Abandon Harris movement that sprouted late last year out of the widespread outrage over the Biden-Harris administration’s support for the ongoing Israeli war on Gaza has officially endorsed the Green Party’s Jill Stein for US president.

The endorsement is the first of its kind for Stein and the Green Party, with the Abandon Harris campaign being the first major Muslim-led political group to endorse her campaign this election cycle. Last month, a smaller group, the Muslim American Public Affairs Council NC, also endorsed Stein.

“We are not choosing between a greater evil and a lesser evil. We are confronting two destructive forces: one currently overseeing a genocide and another equally committed to continuing it. Both are determined to see it through,” the Abandon Harris campaign said in a statement released on Monday.

  • Cowbee [he/him]
    41·
    2 months ago

    Give me an example or explain yourself without resorting to insults, please.

    • Guy Dudeman@lemmy.worldEnglish
      22·
      2 months ago

      It literally just a DuckDuckGo search away, my friend, if you really want details.

      But here’s the first article that I found for you and some highlights: https://www.politico.eu/article/united-states-divide-foreign-policy-democrats-republicans/

      Actual survey noted in the article: https://globalaffairs.org/research/public-opinion-survey/americans-goals-us-foreign-policy

      just one-in-five (20%) Republicans that took part in our survey think it’s very important to protect weaker nations against aggression, or promote and defend human rights in another country. And only one-in-seven (14%) think it’s very important to limit climate change.

      By comparison, 44% of participating Democrats believe it’s very important to protect weaker nations, 47% percent support promoting human rights, 57% percent think strengthening the U.N. is very important and 74% see limiting climate change as a very important goal.

      • Cowbee [he/him]
        4·
        2 months ago

        Those are voters, not the parties. I am obviously referring to the parties, unless you think parties magically form themselves around the policies wished by their voters.

        • Guy Dudeman@lemmy.worldEnglish
          11·
          2 months ago

          You don’t think that the parties are formed by the voters and participants in the process?

          • Cowbee [he/him]
            4·
            2 months ago

            Nope. Political parties often have outward facing messages for their voters, but their actual policy is driven by their donors.

            • Guy Dudeman@lemmy.worldEnglish
              11·
              2 months ago

              Absolutely. But the party itself is made up of regular people who got involved on the local level first, in their local parties.

              Don’t you want to change the party? Or are you content to sit back and do nothing except help the actual, unapologetic nazis gain power?

              • Cowbee [he/him]
                3·
                2 months ago

                The party is a filter, the higher you are allowed to go the more you have to serve the interests of the donors. The DNC cannot change as long as we remain a Dictatorship of the Bourgeoisie, there’s no mechanism for it.

                The way forward is to not goose-step with either genocidal party that represents the US Empire, but to organize outside it, like joining PSL or FRSO.

                • Guy Dudeman@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  11·
                  2 months ago

                  The people have more power than you think. It was UNTHINKABLE for 70 years that a major party would even entertain someone who is sympathetic to socialism like Bernie Sanders. Yet they allowed him a national stage in the past two elections. That’s actual cultural and institutional change that is happening quite rapidly actually.

                  Your expectations and aspirations need to be adjusted to the reality of what levels of change humans are capable of accepting over time.

                  You saw how the country (and the world) reacted to the election of the first (half) black president, right?

                  The entirety of this surge of right wing neo-Nazi fervor we are seeing across the world over the past 16 years is a direct result of the deep-seated racism of the people who vote.

                  The people who don’t vote (and those who vote for a losing but admirable third party) have had no say in the matter. You are respectfully abstaining, and allowing the fascists to dominate.

                  I contend that those third party voters and nonvoters could have stemmed the tide of fascism we are seeing today. Without you, we are weaker than the fascists. And the fascists will keep on winning.

                  • Cowbee [he/him]
                    4·
                    2 months ago

                    The people have more power than you think. It was UNTHINKABLE for 70 years that a major party would even entertain someone who is sympathetic to socialism like Bernie Sanders. Yet they allowed him a national stage in the past two elections. That’s actual cultural and institutional change that is happening quite rapidly actually.

                    Bernie has been entirely cast aside by the DNC proper, though. The people love him for being a Social Democrat, not even a Socialist, and yet he has no power over policy.

                    Your expectations and aspirations need to be adjusted to the reality of what levels of change humans are capable of accepting over time.

                    As Capitalism decays, leftism rises in popularity.

                    You saw how the country (and the world) reacted to the election of the first (half) black president, right?

                    Yes.

                    The entirety of this surge of right wing neo-Nazi fervor we are seeing across the world over the past 16 years is a direct result of the deep-seated racism of the people who vote.

                    No, fascism is rising because Capitalism is decaying. It doesn’t matter if the people who vote are racist, what matters is that Capitalism is declining.

                    The people who don’t vote (and those who vote for a losing but admirable third party) have had no say in the matter. You are respectfully abstaining, and allowing the fascists to dominate.

                    No, liberals are contributing to the rise in fascism by petpetuating Capitalism.

                    I contend that those third party voters and nonvoters could have stemmed the tide of fascism we are seeing today. Without you, we are weaker than the fascists. And the fascists will keep on winning.

                    Fascists win when liberals side with them over leftists. Read the first chapter of Blackshirts and Reds.