• Voytrekk@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2083·
    12 days ago

    Fuck Nintendo. All they have done is ensure I never buy one of their products again.

    • M600@lemmy.world
      151·
      12 days ago

      Same! In fact, I have a switch, but tears of the kingdom was the last thing I bought for it.

      I’ve skipped everything else. It’s not worth supporting an evil company.

  • kautau@lemmy.world
    1517·
    12 days ago

    There were so many Nintendo apologists when Yuzu was taken down because “Yuzu used actual nintendo source code, so that’s why they were taken down, it won’t happen to Ryujinx.” Yet here we are. Nintendo is by far the shittiest company when it comes to protecting their IP, because it’s all they have. Turns out, Mario is a fucking bootlicker

    • yonder@sh.itjust.works
      82·
      12 days ago

      I don’t understand how people think getting rid of emulators is good. Having emulators is better as a consumer than not having them at all, since it can give gamers more ways to play their games and might incentivize Nintendo to add features to compete with emulators (think better res and fps, mod support, save states, no online requirement).

      • pivot_root@lemmy.world
        781·
        12 days ago

        Because a subset of people are and always will be idiots. Remember: some people think unions exist to steal your money, socialism is communist dictatorship propaganda, and privatization of government services is good for everybody.

      • _____@lemm.eeEnglish
        201·
        12 days ago

        Nintendo fanboys are a special breed of stupid, arguing with them about Nintendo’s policies and anti consumer practices is just a wasted effort.

    • Kilgore Trout@feddit.it
      31·
      12 days ago

      Yuzu did not use “nintendo source code”.

      They simply hosted decryption keys in their repository. But that still was not the focus of Nintendo’s move. It was that Yuzu and its company profited directly from the release of The Legend of Zelda.

        • Kilgore Trout@feddit.it
          1·
          8 days ago

          It’s still not clear what their request entailed.

          Although the real root reason, is likely the near release of Switch 2 and the consequent need to be as clean as possible for investors.

        • Lumisal@lemmy.world
          4·
          11 days ago

          Yeah but Bowser at least gives his subjects free healthcare. Sometimes even brings them back to life. When have you seen a skeletoad?

          • samus12345@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            11 days ago

            True. The only time we’ve seen a Toad’s skeleton is when they’re electrocuted in Mario Strikers Charged.

    • vga@sopuli.xyz
      320·
      12 days ago

      because it’s all they have

      I’m not quite sure you fully understand what you said here, given your surrounding arguments. Nintendo literally cannot exist if they allow emulators without becoming just another Sony/Microsoft. And they cannot realistically compete against those two.

  • pyre@lemmy.world
    10614·
    12 days ago

    fuck Nintendo and fuck fanboys who defend them at every turn. breath of the wild was a 7/10 game

    • helenslunch@feddit.nl
      132·
      11 days ago

      I actually hated BotW 😂

      Its insanely repetitive and I got so tired of watching the same cut scenes over and over with no way to skip them…

      I know it’s a hot take but don’t downvote me for my opinion haha.

          • refalo@programming.dev
            2·
            11 days ago

            I would consider that cartoony as well. You might disagree but that’s ok. I’m not trying to pretend like my opinion is popular, it’s just how I personally feel.

    • DaTingGoBrrr
      113·
      11 days ago

      Botw is easily a 9/10 for me . Totk too. I really like Nintendos take on open world. However, I still appreciate the other Zelda games a lot and I hope they don’t completely abandon that linear formula

      • dovahking@lemmy.world
        71·
        11 days ago

        The world is interactive but bland. Except a few scenic vistas, there’s nothing interesting about the botw’s open world.

    • GHiLA@sh.itjust.works
      102·
      12 days ago

      All the more reason to buy their next system at V1.0 with 0 games.

      …keep it in the box for a year and keep an eye on a hack hitting the news.

    • And009@reddthat.com
      81·
      12 days ago

      I desperately wanted a switch 2 and been gaming on my mac using emu and a handful of native games until release.

      But at this point I’ll probably pick up the ps5 or steam deck just to avoid these folks ^

      • turtletracks@lemmy.zip
        51·
        11 days ago

        The Steam Deck is a great option, I have a hub to be able to play on my TV, and don’t tell Nintendo, but a lot of Switch games run nicely.

        I have an SD full of every NES-N64 game with a bunch of GameCube thrown in too, it’s a beautiful thing. Plus gyro on old GameCube games is pretty funny

    • Gestrid@lemmy.caEnglish
      4·
      11 days ago

      I say this as a die-hard 3D Zelda fan:

      I was soooo boooored in BOTW! There was no current main story. It all happened in the past. You’re basically playing through the climax the entire time. And I hated it. I mainly play Zelda for the story, and this was a very poorly told one.

      TOTK was somewhat better because it gave us better characters (I will die for Tulin), a bit better characterization (I enjoyed Zelda getting a lot more fleshed out this time), and a somewhat better story… but there were still way too many reused story beats. That is to say, the story was fleshed out much better, but they still reused the overall story structure from BOTW (get the memories fight the four bosses in the four temples, etc.). They did add a fifth temple and a mid-game story thing, but that’s mostly it. They also didn’t even acknowledge how similar some things were to their counterparts in BOTW (ex. the Malice Gloom), which really bothered me. Also, some stuff just felt… unfinished. Like the reporter bird who, by the end of it all, just ends up pondering and trying to figure himself out… and that’s it. It felt like setup for DLC, but there wasn’t any.

      … That was a very unintentionally long rant.

      To summarize: hated BOTW; somewhat enjoyed TOTK, though it could’ve been much better.

  • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
    551·
    11 days ago

    I’m a bit salty this was apparently announced through Discord. Was it even posted anywhere else?

    The future of social media is fragmented siloes, I guess.

    • jacksilver@lemmy.world
      25·
      11 days ago

      I wouldn’t have an issue with many different communications platforms if they didn’t all require an account (also Discord not being indexable sucks).

      • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
        19·
        11 days ago

        Discord is even worse, as you need to find an invite to a specific Discord, and sometimes go through a lengthy sign up process for each Discord.

        Some won’t let you sign up without a phone #.

    • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
      17·
      11 days ago

      I will never not be pissed off that the overwhelming majority of communities that made the internet vibrant especially when nerding out about niche stuff just happily moved to discord and foreclosed their futures.

      Everytime I get down on the fediverse I think about what discord did to online communities I loved and I get fired up again.

      • refalo@programming.dev
        1·
        8 days ago

        I think eventually if a federated system (or particular server) gets too popular they will just defederate from everyone else and perpetuate the same problem all over again

        • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
          1·
          8 days ago

          Fragmentation is a concern but it isn’t the real issue, the issue is corporate capture of the commons as far as I am concerned.

      • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
        11·
        11 days ago

        Matrix.

        And… Lemmy.

        It doesn’t matter though, the problem is the critical mass is migrating to Discord and shunting everything out of view. Honestly that’s much worse than being on Reddit, even now.

        • recklessengagement@lemmy.world
          5·
          10 days ago

          Matrix does not have seamless desktop sharing or voice chat, and has a drastically higher executive cost. It also does not solve the information silo issue.

          The fediverse as a whole is promising but likely needs to mature a bit longer. Theres a lot of potential issues that have yet to be worked through.

    • Hazzard@lemm.ee
      3·
      10 days ago

      Yeah… even worse, it appears the admin didn’t even announce it, this is just one of the developers clarifying what the admin probably did.

      As someone who uses Ryujinx, I literally spent the afternoon curious about an error I was getting while updating about the build server being down “probably because it’s building a new version, check back in a few minutes”, only to find a Twitter screenshot of this linked in slack that evening.

  • 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world
    542·
    12 days ago

    People think emulator protections in the law are stronger than they really are. Sony vs Connectix made emulation legal, but it wasn’t heard by the supreme court. PS1 games weren’t encrypted and relied on other methods like disc wobble to prevent piracy…so without proactively violating any measures you could just not include that check in your competing emulator and play retail discs without breaking any laws.

    In steps the DMCA anti-circumvention laws for bypassing video game / console encryption measures, which is an even bigger untested minefield without precedent in favor of emulation. And since games are default encrypted on new consoles and arguably not subject to exemption (at least while still supported) it really might be a disaster to fight it.

    Nintendo is a dick but it’s not in our interest or theirs to really push the boundary on the status quo. The get to slap suit whatever they want taken down, we get to play the emulation hydra game where it’s still legally grey.

    • stupidcasey@lemmy.world
      542·
      12 days ago

      Personally I don’t give a flying Fuck what the law says, breaking copyright is the only thing preventing the world from being more of a dystopian nightmare with subscription mice and trains that break down if you take them to a mechanic and I can’t wait for someone in china or India to take the Open source code and make a better emulator.

    • COASTER1921
      27·
      12 days ago

      If they had an actual plan or history of preserving games I’d not care about emulator development. But with the industry track record being so poor we need emulators if for nothing else for preservation.

      So much culturally interesting data has already been lost to time which I bet future historians would absolutely love to have access to. The internet archive is missing much of the early internet, while old iPhone and Android apps are largely unable to be run even if you have the APK/IPA required,

  • taiyang@lemmy.world
    542·
    12 days ago

    As with Yuzu, I won’t be buying any more switch games. I’ll still be playing switch games, and so will my friends, but we won’t my buying them.

    Honestly, I’ve lived watching emulators for decades. They can come and go and there’s always more, even ones that aren’t forks. Just today I was reminiscing on my first emulators, zsnes, no$gmb and nesticle. Y’all remember the peaceful zsnes snowfall? Good times.

    • not_a_dog@lemmy.world
      2·
      11 days ago

      I used all of those. Nesticle had that bloody hand as a cursor. Also, Genecyst for Sega Genesis/Master System emulation.

      Remember when emulation really blew up after UltraHLE successfully ran Ocarina of Time? That was when I first became aware of emulators (IIRC, it was front page news on IGN). Nintendo filed a lawsuit and took UltraHLE down, but we all know how that turned out (at this point, I believe I’ve lost count of how many N64 emulators were developed in the ensuing years). This recent Yuzu/Ryujinx drama is just history repeating itself. Emulation will never die.

      • taiyang@lemmy.world
        1·
        11 days ago

        There’s a very very interesting story about nesticle but unfortunately I’ve forgotten it. Some kind of drama, a bit edge lord stuff, and I think someone died? It’s actually one of the first emulators, ever, though.

        It was a very niche community back then though, long before IGN caught wind. Weird I only found out because of a crazy conspiracy theory uncle, though. Thanks for reminding me about UltraHLE, though!

        • not_a_dog@lemmy.world
          2·
          11 days ago

          I have a vague recollection about the Nesticle drama, but also don’t recall the details.

          I know the emulator scene precedes UltraHLE by at least several years. Publicity around UltraHLE just made it somewhat mainstream, and Nintendo learned first-hand about the Streisand effect, lol!

  • pivot_root@lemmy.world
    482·
    12 days ago

    Obligatory fuck Nintendo, but I also blame the selfish dumbfucks who keep posting videos of themselves playing unreleased games on YouTube and Reddit. If you want nice things contingent on having software which exists in a legal gray area, don’t openly poke the litigious hornets’ nest.

    • flashgnash@lemm.ee
      76·
      12 days ago

      That’s inevitable though, blame them all you want those people will always exist

  • SattaRIP@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    44·
    12 days ago

    I own a Nintendo, and I haven’t used it in years. I bought some games which were ridiculously priced compared to what I was used to on steam. I’m rather annoyed they keep their games console exclusive for this reason, they have like a monopoly of a market they control, it feels.

    I was gonna get some more games to put on it, but with then shutting down these emulators, I think I’ll use one of those instead. Fuck Nintendo.

    • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
      9·
      12 days ago

      Yeah I haven’t used my switch in a long time. I think I might have power surged it, but I don’t really care enough to even double check.

      I have a switch emulator on my external HD along with a bunch of other emulators. When I get my next PC I’ll just play whatever switch games I want on that.

      • M600@lemmy.world
        5·
        12 days ago

        Even having a switch, I still prefer to dump the games and play them on steamdeck. That way, I can just bring one device for gaming.

        Even is emulation is not perfect on the steamdeck, I’m still happy to play at lower performance or with some graphical glitches for the convenience.