• Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Fact remains, not voting is basically is half a vote for Trump, and Trump is going to be MUCH worse for the citizens of Gaza.

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        He reduces harm by not doing whatever trump would be doing if he were elected last election.

        He could be doing more to try and reduce harm or at least least to promote harm, but trump would have made it so much worse.

        Just remember, trump could have been elected in 2020 and been in office the last few years instead while this was all going on. Does anyone think Palestine would be in a better position if that were the case?

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          You sound in bad faith or unaware of the situation

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Israel_in_the_Israel–Hamas_war

          “The Joe Biden administration stated that Israel would receive “whatever it needs” to support its offensive against the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip.”

          I guess “whatever it needs” it’s still better than sending israel atomic bombs or draft every american citizen to go there. Make sure to advertise for them so they can still send israel “whatever it needs” and not for example for a third party that would do what it’s needed to stop the genocide.

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            You sound in bad faith or unaware of what Trump has said.

            Trump’s quotes on the genocide:

            Israel should “finish the problem.”

            On Biden’s administration: “Frankly, they got soft.”

            "When President Trump is back in the Oval Office, Israel will once again be protected, Iran will go back to being broke, terrorists will be hunted down, and the bloodshed will end.”

            “Fully support Israel defeating, dismantling, and permanently destroying the terrorist group Hamas,” while telling the Republican Jewish Coalition later that month that Hamas fighters “will burn forever in the eternal pit of hell." That month, his campaign also said that, if elected again, he would bar Gaza residents from entering the U.S. as part of an expanded travel ban.

            “Gaza’s waterfront property could be very valuable,”

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        26 billion in harm reduction.

        But it’s fine, he’s a Democrat. You are not legally allowed to criticize democrats.

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      You seem unaware of how bad the situation already is. I encourage you to search for news and reports from inside gaza. The fact that it could get worst highlight that they are already making deals and supporting an evil government. The only way it can get any better is if someone other than red and blue get in power.

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        Nobody other than red or blue is getting in power for the next 20 years or so at least. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you and the people you’re voting to protect can be helped by your vote.

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        If it can’t get any worse than you mine as well cross it out from your voting criteria. I assure you that come January either Trump or Harris is going to be president. Mine as well prioritize other issues such as Ukraine. Ukraine can and will get worse under Trump.

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        I’ve been following this for years and have worked for non-profit media watchdogs that publish underreported stories about this conflict.

        I’m just in the camp of people who thinks it’s entirely possible for this to get even worse, and Trump is very cozy with Bibi.

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          more cozy than someone remarking his zionist views multiple times, hugging him like a long time friend and helping his government with “whatever it needs”? I guess it can get to the point where trump suck his dick live but look it’s already a shit show and the solution is someone else.

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      Voting for Harris is voting for Harris. Voting for Trump is voting for Trump. Voting third party is voting for Trump. Not voting is voting for Trump. Eating spaghetti is voting for Trump. Why won’t you just vote blue!?

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        Jesus, another one who doesn’t know how to track cause and effect. There sure are a lot of you lil guys, hey! Like Tribbles, but not as cute.

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          Really shows that people weren’t paying attention in Civics class. Zero clue how FPTP and the spoiler effect work.

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        Let’s pretend you have 2 people that decide to not vote for candidate A or candidate B.

        If candidate A has 50 votes and bad polices for Gaza, and candidate B has 51 votes and even worse policies for Gaza, then by sitting out, those two people have effectively allowed the worse option to win.

        It’s just basic arithmetic.

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        What people mean when thwy say those things is: voting for anyone except Harris increases Trump’s chances of winning compared to a Harris vote. This is trivially true.