Did I say mandatory? I meant optional! You’re “free” to die in a cardboard box under a freeway as a market capitalist scarecrow warning to the other ants so they keep showing up to make us more!

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    10 hours ago

    You would! Unrealized losses could be used to offset gains. If one stock goes down and another goes up, you would pay tax on the net gain, and you could take a deduction on the net loss.

    The tax could also be structured so that it only applies when borrowing against the gains, so it could be rolled into the cost of the loan.

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      8 hours ago

      The entire market can go down. There’s no offsetting when your total value is down.

      The tax could also be structured so that it only applies when borrowing against the gains

      That’s fine and completely different from paying a tax on something when it has gone up but not getting the money back when it goes down.

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        7 hours ago

        If your total value is down, you aren’t going to be able to borrow against the gains, anyway. So no taxable event.

        Let’s be clear, this is a loophole that rich people take advantage of to avoid paying taxes on income. By borrowing instead of selling, they get the profit without incurring a taxable event. It’s one of many ways capitalists siphon profit from the system while providing nothing in return.

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          6 hours ago

          This isn’t about borrowing against assets. I’m fine if that’s taxable.

          This is about holding a stock and paying tax just for owning it despite it might be worthless when you go to sell it.

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            5 hours ago

            But you can already deduct losses from your taxes, up to $3,000 per year and if you have more than that, you can carry it forward. If it’s worthless when you sell, you can deduct all of the loss from your taxes.