With membership at new lows and no electoral wins to their name, it’s time for the Greens to ditch the malignant narcissist who’s presided over its decline.

“With membership at new lows and no electoral wins to their name, it’s time for the Greens to ditch the malignant narcissist who’s presided over its decline.”

    • bloodfart
      39·
      2 months ago

      No, I didn’t say that.

      My ballot will be counted for PSL.

      That’s the opposite of not voting.

      You know… voting.

        • bloodfart
          15·
          2 months ago

          You’re replying to me about it so it means something to you too! ❤️

      • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
        31·
        2 months ago

        My ballot will be counted for PSL.

        Yeah, you are voting for literally nobody. If you’d stayed at home, nothing would be different.

        • bloodfart
          14·
          2 months ago

          No, PSL is running Claudia de la Cruz. That’s who I’m voting for, not nobody.

          If you think my vote doesn’t change anything then why do you keep replying about it?

            • bloodfart
              23·
              2 months ago

              Surely you can state your case without resorting to insults?

              It would be a real bummer if you were only trying to browbeat and shame people into voting how you like!

              • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
                31·
                2 months ago

                By extension you are enabling Donald Trump. So, quite frankly, insults are required.

                If more of you “conscientious objectors” actually showed up to vote we could actually start working on the Democratic party and trying to shape it better by pushing for more progressive candidates within the party. Instead you’re giving meat to the right by leaving the vote tallies at too close to call numbers while Jill Stein gets her not even 5% of the vote and then walks home with all those juicy endorsements which she will spin into nice fat paid lectures. All the while holding us in this pattern of continually fighting against the absolute evil that is conservativism. We are fighting for a better world, while you are throwing a tantrum.

                • bloodfart
                  23·
                  2 months ago

                  Wait, my vote for PSL won’t be counted for trump so how do I enable trump?

                  I’m also literally talking about voting not staying home, so idk what you mean by showing up to vote.

                  Pushing the democrats left has never worked in my lifetime and possibly ever. It’s especially dubious when the democrat candidate has carved out explicitly right wing dare I call them fascist positions on the border, Gaza and elsewhere.

                  As I’ve said elsewhere, I’m a big hater of the greens. You don’t have to convince me that they’re a directionless triangulation meant to make money.

                  • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
                    11·
                    2 months ago

                    Pushing the democrats left has never worked in my lifetime and possibly ever.

                    Several very progressive candidates are currently serving in Congress now. And Bernie Sanders is now on several powerful senate committees that have the influence to make real changes. But he needs backup. They all do. And neither the the green party nor the PSL are going to provide that. Because they have literally no one in any office in Washington.

                    So yeah, your vote is as ineffective as if you didn’t bother voting. So I treat it as though you didn’t bother voting. But in the media you’re going to be part of that statistic that sits over to the side of the screen pointing out all the people who could have helped Kamala Harris win if she ends up losing to Trump. Which I really hope she doesn’t but this race is far closer than I would prefer. Which is why I am, quite frankly, very angry at people like you. Because instead of helping you give us sophistry.

                  • Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.world
                    29·
                    2 months ago

                    Dude, it’s not about the Greens. It’s that this sub hates all of us who aren’t voting for Harris. They’ll accuse of wanting Trump to win, of being trolls, etc.

                    All because we aren’t voting for the Duopoly. Good to see another socialist voter!

                    Stay strong, brother.

                • Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.world
                  110·
                  2 months ago

                  Every vote for Harris is stealing a vote from third-party candidates who represent real change. By sidelining those voices, you’re indirectly helping Trump win!

                  • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
                    21·
                    2 months ago

                    Oh yeah you turned that argument right back around on me. It’s not like there’s millions literally millions of liberal voters out there who don’t even know who Jill Stein is much less will likely vote for her or any other third party candidate for that matter.