“With membership at new lows and no electoral wins to their name, it’s time for the Greens to ditch the malignant narcissist who’s presided over its decline.”

  • bloodfart
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    3 hours ago

    Surely you can state your case without resorting to insults?

    It would be a real bummer if you were only trying to browbeat and shame people into voting how you like!

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      2 hours ago

      By extension you are enabling Donald Trump. So, quite frankly, insults are required.

      If more of you “conscientious objectors” actually showed up to vote we could actually start working on the Democratic party and trying to shape it better by pushing for more progressive candidates within the party. Instead you’re giving meat to the right by leaving the vote tallies at too close to call numbers while Jill Stein gets her not even 5% of the vote and then walks home with all those juicy endorsements which she will spin into nice fat paid lectures. All the while holding us in this pattern of continually fighting against the absolute evil that is conservativism. We are fighting for a better world, while you are throwing a tantrum.

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        1 hour ago

        Wait, my vote for PSL won’t be counted for trump so how do I enable trump?

        I’m also literally talking about voting not staying home, so idk what you mean by showing up to vote.

        Pushing the democrats left has never worked in my lifetime and possibly ever. It’s especially dubious when the democrat candidate has carved out explicitly right wing dare I call them fascist positions on the border, Gaza and elsewhere.

        As I’ve said elsewhere, I’m a big hater of the greens. You don’t have to convince me that they’re a directionless triangulation meant to make money.

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          Pushing the democrats left has never worked in my lifetime and possibly ever.

          Several very progressive candidates are currently serving in Congress now. And Bernie Sanders is now on several powerful senate committees that have the influence to make real changes. But he needs backup. They all do. And neither the the green party nor the PSL are going to provide that. Because they have literally no one in any office in Washington.

          So yeah, your vote is as ineffective as if you didn’t bother voting. So I treat it as though you didn’t bother voting. But in the media you’re going to be part of that statistic that sits over to the side of the screen pointing out all the people who could have helped Kamala Harris win if she ends up losing to Trump. Which I really hope she doesn’t but this race is far closer than I would prefer. Which is why I am, quite frankly, very angry at people like you. Because instead of helping you give us sophistry.