• november@lemmy.vg
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      As opposed to the extremely non-emotional arguments such as “But I like how meat tastes” and “cheese tho” and “for every animal you don’t eat I’m gonna eat two”?

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      And what exactly is a logical reasoning?

      Pretty much all political reasoning is emotional, but for some reason, only the “other side” gets emotional.

      Wanting equality is an emotional reason. Wanting absolute freedom is emotional. Freedom of speech, aristocracy, fascism, anarchism, progressive income tax are all, if you keep asking “why?” emotional choices.

      If, at any point, someone says something is good or bad, well, that’s emotional, simply because these are purely human categories that are not rational.

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        Vegans: Violently killing animals for no reason, ruining the environment, destroying cultures with animals is both logically and empathetically wrong

        Libs: BOTH SIDESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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        You can make a purely rational environmental argument with reducing CO2 emissions.

        A pure appeal to emotion is showing slaughterhouse footage or other animal suffering.

        A utilitarian philosophical argument about reducing suffering is also logical, not emotional.

        A emotional spiritual appeal can be made with karmic debt accumulated or similar.

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          I don’t give a flying fuck about CO2. I care that you are murdering an animal and ending its life for no reason. Animals have rights including the right to live without your torturing them and mudering them. Everything else is out of scope for veganism. It is an ethical position advocating for the rights of animals, not a utilitarian calculation.

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          You can make a purely rational environmental argument with reducing CO2 emissions.

          Please do this without resorting to an emotional motivation such as “People enjoy being alive and not suffering” or whatever.

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          Of course that’s emotional.

          Reducing suffering is based on the idea that I don’t like suffering, therefore I don’t want others to suffer. That’s emotional.