Let me start off with the fact that NATO is most definitely to blame for this mess. From the moment they staged their coup in Ukraine, they began the path to this war. That however does not mean we should support Russia. Lenin’s principle of Revolutionary Defeatism should be our guide. The working class has nothing to gain from a war between capitalist powers. And Russia is a capitalist power. It is us who do the fighting, us who bear the brunt of the economic impacts. This can be seen in the sanctions on Russia. The rich only get richer, the poor only get poorer. This war helps neither the Russian proletariat nor the Ukrainian. The only solution is deescalation. We should still support the independence of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions, but that doesn’t mean we have to support Russia’s actions. They are not invading with good intentions. Putin is not trying to denazify Ukraine out of the goodwill of his heart. Russia is pursuing its own nationalist aimes. Nothing about this war in anyways moves us towards revolution. In a war between imperialist countries, the only result will be more devastation. This is not both sideism. It’s opposing lesser evilism. The initial moderator statement was closer to what it should be. It was approved by every moderator except RedstarXtreme. The biggest error of the statement was implying that the Reddit admins were justified in quarantining this community. They were not. I like the statement by r/sendinthetanks better so be sure to check that out. I’m open to discussion.

Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/sendinthetanks/comments/tls07q/on_russia/

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    I was expecting some 4D chess minded answer as to why we shouldn’t Russia and was prepared to genuinely listen, unfortunately this is just the same trampled dogmatist argument all us have heard. Was the Soviet Union wrong to arm and support the Chinese nationalist when they were at war with Imperial Japan? No difference here, except that NATO currently stands as a bigger obstacle to worldwide socialism then the fascist powers of WW2 did.

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      I’m honestly getting tired of seeing it. We’re supposed to do better than the anarchists, troskyists, and maoists.

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      There’s quite a big difference between the two. Chinese nationalists, however reactionary, were never imperialist. Secondly, the Soviet Union wasn’t just arming nationalists, they were arming a united front of Chinese communists and nationalists against Japanese imperial aggression. After the war, the communists took control. The working class had much to gain from that war.