The USSR and Soviet communism were horrible, atrocious regime and ideology that suppressed and killed millions. Just to point out a few things, look at the Holodomor that took place in Ukraine, the massive purges Stalin did, look at the violent takeover of Eastern European countries and the numerous labour camps that were created in those countries and in Russia , biggest one being Gulag in Siberia (Russia), but there were many more such as the Belene labour camp located in Bulgaria as an example. Let’s continue examining things even further… Ukrainians democratically elected their president and he has been in office for not even 4 years, now look at Putin who has been in office for almost 18 years… Talk about illegitimacy. Let’s look at the logical reasons behind this invasion, a fully rational person will tell you that Russia wants to expand its political influence and of course in order to do so they need a justification. The NATO narrative is really convincing indeed, that is if we accept that NATO secretly wants to launch an invasion on Russia, which the more you think about, the more absurd it becomes (Russia is a nuclear power). Another point that I personally find the most outrageous is the NAZI narrative that aims at establishing some half assed connection between WW2 USSR and this invasion. Of course a little bit of digging will disprove this point quite easily, the president of Ukraine is a Jew (And anyone who knows anything about Nazism will tell you that this Ukraine cannot be a Nazi country). Far right parties have only 1 percent in parliament in Ukraine, which well, does not hold well for the Nazi argument either. The entire argument is based upon the idea that the Azov battalion somehow represents the entire country, which is simply untrue. I hope this helps you and gives a new perspective…
Yeah, I feel like that’s a good summary of what my shitlib friend says lol. It’s as if we exist in different realities when it comes to historical facts (e.g. Holodomor as deliberate genocide by starvation vs. famine that Bolshevik government handled well once they got the info)
Update: Liberal says he has le evidence
Updated update: Here are the sources
Libs will often just make up absurd stuff and try to pass it off as fact. They want to play the asymmetrical game where you have to do the work of reasoning and fact checking while they get to spew bullshit. The best you can do is get them to argue in circles.
Fortunately for you he’s already making excuses for all the nazism, so you don’t really need an argument. But ppl like that I think are a lost cause. They will just side with the ruling class narrative every time. I have wasted lots of time with people like this IRL and have never seen any progress with them. Liberalism might not be a curable illness.
