• davel [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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    If Harris wins, the Democratic base will continue to sleep. You can do anything when the Dems are in the WH. It was under Trump that protesters shut down airport terminals, but under Biden the base sleeps regarding immigration & asylum. That’s what Glenn Greenwald and I learned from the GWB to Obama transition: the Dems sleep when their team is in office. Greenwald “changed” from hero to villain without changing the least bit; the only difference was who was in office. Unlike the Dem-aligned media, he didn’t go to sleep.

    You can war as much as you want. You can run a fucking star chamber. You can stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody.

    If Harris is the harm reduction candidate, who for?

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      That’s been my observation as well. When Trump was in power, that was the first time that a lot of people in US started paying attention to what their government is up to. Then as soon as dems got in power, everybody promptly went back to sleep.

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        Sometimes I ask people what made Trump so uniquely bad. The only answer I’ve gotten so far, one which can’t be applied to every other US president, is his unfiltered and brash communication style.

        I also think that Trump was good vis a vis nations in the US sphere of influence. The leaders of those countries started thinking about what happens when they’re not the US’ puppets. Unfortunately those thoughts were all forgotten as soon as Biden was elected, as everything went back to normal.

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          I’m convinced that the real reason Trump is so hated is because he pulled the curtain back and just openly said what the US was all about. A famous example of that was when he just blurted out how the US is occupying Syria for their oil. It’s not about defending human rights, and all the other bullshit libs peddle, it’s about plunder. And when Trump comes out and says these things he takes away the fig leaf that libs use to justify the atrocities their government commits. All of a sudden they’re forced to look in the mirror and grapple with the fact that US is a fascist state. That’s what drives them up the wall.

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      Honestly at this point I think Harris and the DNC are the “acceleration” option. They make Trump seem sensible (for a genocidaire, they’re all genocidaires) in contrast.

      No one should support either, but Harris seems very likely to start WW3, and sooner than later. While I don’t exactly put any weight on RFK or Tulsi Gabbard’s opinions, it seems pretty clear to me why they and many others are endorsing Trump at this point. The DNC is going full fash, full WW3, and fast- the GOP is little better, but at this point my opinion is that the genuinely more fascistic and destructive of the two is the DNC.

      Hopefully the US’ decline can outpace its frantic preparations for (causing) armageddon. I remain optimistic on the broader global scale, and I’m not a defeatist, but I suspect that will be needed, for the collective peoples of the west and of the US in particular to shock them to their senses. Past that- I suppose if it happens, it happens. This was probably the most likely endgame scenario (not armageddon, but the very real and likely threat of it, with imperial hubris leading the west to actively seek it out) to come out of the western world’s cultivating and perfecting every form of evil and exploitation for 500 years, and the rise of the first purposefully genocidal settler-state to its hegemonic peak.

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        I think the US decline is outpacing it’s ability to ramp up production, and Europe seems to be on the same path, so I think there’s cause for optimism.