• OsrsNeedsF2P
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    Here’s the thing - Hamas isn’t actively killing Israeli civilians anymore. You can argue that if we don’t fully wipe Hamas they will in the future, but right now, almost exclusively Gaza civilians are being killed. That ratio isn’t 45:1 today, it’s closer to 4500:1.

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      I imagine most are dead or hiding, so yeah. I’m not really sure who they think they’re killing if not civilians.

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    The civilian:soldier death ratio is unacceptable for both sides.

    But Biden is giving weapons to one side.

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    Even fucking now. Jfc, thank goodness his age caught up to him. And i hope Harris has some sense

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      3 months ago

      Shes gonna be more hawkish than Biden has been

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    3 months ago

    How does Bernie, a Jewish man, see what Israel is doing but our dumbass president can’t? Oh yeah, money.

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    Is it really surprising that a government that started a war while spending zero dollars on air superiority, zero dollars on artillery, zero dollars on defensive fortifications, zero dollars on civilian bomb shelters, zero dollars on radar and enemy detection and zero dollars on a military college for its officers is losing the war it started with a 45:1 casualty ratio?

    If Israel were truly trying to maximize harm in Gaza it could easily be 4500:1.

    This is special Olympics vs. Olympics here.

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    Actually if it indeed is 45:1 i must admit that i did not know that so many israeli civilians had been killed!

    Edit: I legit thought that the only Israeli civilians killed in this conflict were the hostages. Is this still the case?

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    That’s only if you believe Hamas and not the IDF.

    Do you see the bias there?

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      Name an instance where “Hamas” numbers (a misnomer for the Gazan Ministry of Health) vastly differed from independent investigations.

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          You mean the Al Ahli Hospital? The one instance where it is still inconclusive? Yet you are convinced it’s Hamas, I wonder why. The hospital where we know for a fact was hit by Israeli rocket fire days prior. All the while, Israel has never stopped bombing hospitals, schools, mosques, historical sites, Refugee camps, tens of thousands of children, hundreds of journalists, and international aid workers

          This was not the first airstrike on the hospital in question. The New York Times confirmed that the same hospital had been hit by rocket fire on Oct. 14, 2023, before the more recent attack, in which four people had been injured.

          More than half of Gaza’s homes destroyed or damaged, 80 percent of commercial facilities, 85 percent of school building, 16 out of 36 hospitals are partially functioning, 65 percent of road networks, 65 percent of cropland damaged

          there is extensive evidence of the IDF quite literally engaging in human shielding — forcing Palestinian civilians to approach houses for them because they’ll be less likely to be shot at than Israeli soldiers, for example. Israel’s High Court banned the practice in 2005, but Israeli human rights group B’Tselem reports that “soldiers continue to occasionally use Palestinians as human shields even after the court ruling, especially during military operations.”

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              Presumably it was to illustrate how misinformed you are, and you took the bait by believing the most widely disproven lie the IDF has told so far in this genocide.

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      The Palestinian death toll has been verified by journalists and US intelligence. After US intelligence verified the death tolls, sudden the Israeli government stopped disputing the death toll.

      You have a very strong opinion but clearly haven’t done your homework.

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      Holy shit it’s almost like Israel could’ve just:

      • Listened to intelligence reports of an impending attack.

      • Actually fucking manned their border with the troops they committed to an offensive so terrorists couldn’t just waltz in on motorcycles and paragliders lmao.

      • And avoided committing the equivalent of around 40 x October 7ths against innocent civilians!

      Thanks for proving the point that this offensive was unnecessary.

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          Nothing brings a bigger smile to my face than a spammer spewing lies and contextual half-truths following me around to other threads after I whooped their ass in in another thread.

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            In that case, I’ll keep following you around and posting this since it makes you smile so much.

            It’s pretty hard to sell that “half truths” thing when all I did was share an uncut video of Kamala saying and cheering for the very things you’re pretending to be against while rabidly defending her to people that you accuse of being trolls.

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              Boy, you’re really running the gamut on fallacies — now committing a straw-man fallacy of my own position! How desperate :(

              I’ll remind you of what I wrote since you keep deflecting:

              And when you muster up the courage, do let me know the utopian nation from where you reside.

              I’m betting money it’s China. Are you even allowed to say Tiananmen Square Protest and Massacre? Are you even allowed to visit this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre — copy and paste the 4th paragraph to confirm!

              The amount of deflections is laughable and a concession that I won. Thank you :)

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                I agree with what you say in general about Israel but here is a big downvote for being so fucking rude.

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                  You’re missing context with this user who was stalking me across several communities. As a result they were banned and countless of their comments removed by mods.

                  So excuse me for dishing back what was originally served.

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      To be martyred in Arabic means to bear witness to being killed unlawfully, even people who die by mistake can be thought of as martyrs. To all the parents and children who lost each other, their loved ones being a “martyr” offers condolences in shitty times if war because it means instant entry to heaven in Islam. Culturally the term is applied even to non Muslims, especially when butchered needlessly by Israel. It’s not like a death cult, it just means “killed unjustly” and literally translated to “Witness”. It’s a bit of a mistranslation…

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          Shit religion? Sure. I don’t give a fuck. Islam sucks like all the rest.

          Shit people? I can’t change your view if you are just a racist.

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              You said shit people. Islam isn’t worse than other religions.

              But I don’t give a crap about conversing with you so don’t bother

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                  You sound like some internet edgelord. Anyway not in the mood for a covo with people who will use their antitheism to veil their racism.