Starbucks says Niccol can live in his home in Newport Beach, California and commute to Starbucks’ head office 1,000 miles away on a corporate jet

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      There are legitimate reasons for private jets to exist, though the list is admittedly small.

      The ability to transport lifesaving medications and things like organs long distances as fast as possible comes to mind.

      There isn’t much reason for individuals to travel on private jets in non emergency scenarios though

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        Transporting organs doesn’t happen on Private Jets, helicopters and courier craft typically do the job. It’s also now well within the possibility for medium sized drones to be able to rapdily move something the size of an organ container reliably long distance, faster and more efficient than a jet can load, fuel, taxi, land and unload.

        Private Jets are just luxury items of the rich, and are the carbon equivalent of burning down small forests or power a small town with coal burning. There is nothing they do that can’t be done more efficiently by a drone or helicopter for a fraction of the emissions.

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          What helicopters and drones are flying over the ocean, across Europe, Africa and North America?

          And what is a ‘courier craft’ do you mean a private airplane?

          Private != Billionaire owned, it means a privately owned plane that flies general aviation (non FAR 121)

          Transferring organs absolutely happens in private jets.

          I think you might just not know what the term ‘private jet’ means.

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      I’m sure that private (meaning small) jets can have valid use cases, it’s the abuse by the rich that is the problem.

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          Even if we are talking about specifically jets that are owned privately, they could have legit use cases. It’s the abuse that is the issue. I agree with the whole “eat the rich” sentiment, but that’s a separate issue. In the system where rich people exist, the problem is abuse.

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            I vote for we start destroying the private jets without reservation and if we encounter a legitimate use case we’ll deal with it at that time.

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                That worked for me, that and sugar free Gatorade. Took me down from 8.3 to 4.5 without insuline. That being said, I’m an anomaly in that I don’t eat much processed food or bread. Just a really bad pop addiction.

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                  Yeah, maybe it was a bad example, because in some very specific scenario, it can work. My point was that treating a symptom won’t cure the underlying disease. Just like as long as there are rich people, trying to take away their planes won’t work.

          • brbposting@sh.itjust.works
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            Legit use cases… Make A Wish comes to mind, but maybe that’d be a corporate jet or not a traditionally-private jet.

            Any exemptions for sports teams or anything? VIPs whose lives are at risk through no real fault of their own…

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              What you’re describing are use cases for charter flights - renting an aircraft for a specific, temporary purpose, usually from a company specialising in such flights - they own or lease the aircraft and employ the flight crew and maintenance staff.

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    I’m sorry, if you aren’t willing to relocate, you are not a good fit for the company.

    I heard this in a job interview and the position was disclosed as remote.

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      I don’t understand why can’t the CEO be remote. They can buy all their important staff Apple Vision Pros if they’d like and it’ll still be cheaper than this

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    Next time Starbucks does a greenwashing campaign just think of this asshole drinking champagne while commuting on a private jet.

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    So, you’re going to continue to increase climate change, rather than just using a zoom call. GOD DAMN CEOS!!! Why the hell is return to office so important to you assholes??? Just do a god damned video call!

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      A zoom call has the possibility of being recorded. I’m 90% sure at this point all these execs insist on in person meetings is so they can plan and discuss illegal and unethical shit without worry.

      I’m only in middle management and I know I feel the difference in the way I talk about things on zoom calls VS in person.

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        You could also record an in person meeting.
        Zoom tells participants if the are being recorded by the zoom app.

        I think these people just get off on having their fiefdom and serfs in person before them to pander and be sycophants.

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    Calling it “supercommute” is such a stupid thing. It should be called “stupidcommute” or maybe “commoronute”.

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    I have to dry my clothes between 12am and 3pm and this m’fer gets to fly a jet to work. Private jets along with luxury yachts are things humanity shouldn’t have.

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      There’s no inherent polluting/ecological threat in either vehicle (in the far-flung hypothetical that they run on sustainable sources), i.e. you can conceive of a solar-jet or a fusion yacht. Why can’t people have nice, private things? Because my utopia conception of an equitable, 1%-less future doesn’t necessitate me crammed in 949 hyperplane with 1000 other people for efficiency.

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        Add a few more paragraphs and boom: you’ve got a copypasta

        EDIT: Wait, parent comment is not sarcasm

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        You keep using the word “future”.

        That’s sort of the point you’re ironically appearing to miss.

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          No, I’m not missing that the unchecked usage of mass polluting luxury vehicles by the 1% is a not-insignificant contirbutor to global emissions.

          But the statement wasn’t those fuckos should stop, it was “humanity shouldn’t have” those things. An unqualified, blanket(, likely hyperbolic) denial. Like saying ‘humanity shouldn’t have personal cars’ because EVs hadn’t taken off yet.

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            Go deeper.

            We shouldn’t have these things because the usage is abused by every aspect of modern society. Look into the history of electrical and hydrogen engines. You’ll see what I mean.

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    Well fuck you and your co² farting anus, Brian Niccol!

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        Niccol will still be expected to work from the Seattle office at least three days a week

        Except when he’s flying around the country/world to other locations.

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          conveniently he will have a work meeting in nearby upscale restaurants from his california home mondays, wednesdays and fridays.

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          Don’t think for a second it will last long, or if it will be enforced at all.

          He will be expected to be there 3 days a week, not obligated.

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    Real “Meetings that could have been Emails” energy on this executive level decision.

    Honestly, doing the big Star Wars Emperor hologram head would have made this guy look less evil.

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      Didn’t they change the law so you can’t track private flights anymore? Or was Melon Husk just trying to get that done? Or was that just me imagining things again? 🤔

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          It’s also not something that you can really stop people from doing.

          You might be able to stop people sharing the information freely, but, the transponders that people track and the protocols and standards for the communication are well known internationally. It doesn’t take more than $50 in parts to set up your own receiver and connect it to a computer.

          I’d consider any law prohibiting the observation of air traffic by the public to be impossible to enforce. How can you stop someone from listening by law?

          Sharing the information, however, that’s a bit different.

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        The FAA reauthorization act slipped in that ownership of private jets could remain anonymous. So you can still track them, because all flight plans are public and need to be for safety reasons, but they no longer have to tell you who owns what tail number. A dedicated tracker can figure out what plane belongs to who, either by showing up at the airport, or by comparing flight logs with other information about celebrity locations.

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          So you can still track them, because all flight plans are public and need to be for safety reasons, but they no longer have to tell you who owns what tail number.

          I feel like that has a little bit to do with how journalists tracked down a bunch of FBI shell companies that operated spy planes over BLM(and other) protests.

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            Why use spy planes? Why not just use police helicopters? Police helicopters are a normal sight above any large scale demonstration

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              I have no clue, some claim its because they’re illegally using Stingrays(cell interceptors)

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                Basically everything is encrypted, they won’t be that useful. Maybe could perhaps identify who is there though? But depends

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      It’s not even coffee. It’s artificial sweeteners with a bit of sugar and some more sweeteners.

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        Mostly real sugar isn’t it? I always viewed Starbucks as kind of an adult breast milk. Sweet warm milk with a little stimulant to keep from crying on the way to work.

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        There’s no need descend to such hyperbolic depths, there are plenty of factually accurate complaints against the company and their product.

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          Really? I wouldn’t call it coffee either, in a sense that the coffee beans are not the most important ingredient of the drinks, in either taste or volume…

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            They sell that. They also sell tea and milkshakes, but you can go into any Starbucks and get a cup of drip coffee, or an espresso, or cold brew, or a mocha. But people like the sweet drinks and Starbucks is happy to oblige.

            They roast their beans too dark because they care more about consistency than subtlety or complexity, their anti-union pushes are bad for workers, they displaced a load of small coffee shops (I have seen significant rebound, but that might just be my region), there’s this new “supercommuter” nonsense.

            Pointing at a Frappuccino and saying “they don’t even sell coffee!” has no negative impact on their brand or business, it’s a transparently pointless claim to the general public, and it distracts from the very real problems Starbucks has. (I think it mostly sounds like “popular thing bad” with a sprinkling of “America bad” Eurosupremecy)

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        Well, I take their cold brew every once in a while (where I live is basically the only place that does it) and it’s quite good. I take it with no sugar, only ice.

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          Same. It was one the worst espressos of my life. Considering that I live in Brazil, the world’s largest producers of coffee, that disgusting liquid was like a slap in the face.

  • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world
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    Niccol can live in his home in Newport Beach, California and commute to Starbucks’ head office 1,000 miles away on a corporate jet

    Replace all the Taylor Swift memes with this fucking guy.