Firstly, getting food is different than literally being imprisoned in your car. Secondly, they could go to a different place and these people are actively attacking them not being victims of their protest.
I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice
If your devotion is to order, where your allegiance is to the polite convenience you’ve come to accept and expect as a first world consumer, you are no ally of justice.
I dont know what you are trying to get at. I think you should realize that getting on freeway and making everyone mad = bad protest; doing a sit-in and getting the harm visable = good protest.
Its that you make this comment without any comprehension of history.
In 1958, you would have been writing this exact same comment about a sit-in protest being “bad protest”. Your worldview just rewrites you into being on the right side of history on things, when now, when you have the opportunity to be on the right side of history while its happening, you aren’t.
Dude, I literally havent take a side, I am just telling you what I think works and what doesnt. If you think getting people fighting mad on a freeway is a way to win people over, I would have to disagree.
Again with another poorly thought out opinion that does not logically connect your message with any real measure of virtue. Here you’re excusing the conduct of people who would block traffic by chalking it all up to countering the white moderate preferring an absence of tension, which is not a logical conclusion whatsoever as it could be similarly used to argue for hanging racists in the street. It’s ignoring the severity of the impact of the protest to break it down into a binary of support/nonsupport. “Either you’re with us or you’re against us.” is the mantra of forced conformity of thought. Seriously, do better.
No, it wasn’t…because he was talking about people who didn’t want to see black folks rise up at all if it meant disruption. I would be thrilled to see Gazans gain equality, their own state and be just fine with protestors disrupting the people who could actually affect those changes. Protesting by blocking regular folk from getting anywhere is rock bottom stupid because they don’t have any power to make the change…it’s taking their frustration out at the situation out on innocent people. Instead of speaking truth to power, it’s inflicting their will on the powerless. If you can’t tell right from wrong, that’s a you problem.
If you think MLK would have been all for trapping regular civilians on the US freeways for a war in another continent though, you’re a complete and utter moron.
“severity of impact” – a few hundred people made slightly late to things vs. tens of thousands of civilian deaths. How do you type this without pausing to consider how absolutely monstrous you’re being?
How do you type this without pausing to consider how absurdly hyperbolic you’re being? I don’t support Israel in its war against Gaza whatsoever, I was thrilled to see the war crimes charges against Netanyahu and public sentiment turning against the conditions there but if I don’t support freeway blocking protests in another continent that don’t even attempt to separate out those that support the war, I’m being “absolutely monstrous?” How could anyone be expected to take you seriously here when you exaggerate THAT badly?
Edit: Oh, and “Few hundred people made slightly late”
Gonna stop you right there. You have no idea how many cars get backed up for how long, who has drinking water, working Air Conditioning, emergencies to get to, whether or not someone died in an ambulance stuck in traffic. You’re making up the rosiest scenario, pretending this isn’t dangerous and life threatening, and then pretending that’s the reality as if you could know. It’s wildly dishonest.
You write dumb shit like you’re trying to hit a word count.
“excusing the conduct of people who would” literally delete this entire cringe flourish and you lose zero meaning. In fact you lose redundancy wHerEiN you first refer to what they’re doing and then just say what they’re doing in the same sentence. Sophomoric.
It’s ignoring the severity of the impact of the protest to break it down into a binary of support/nonsupport.
So high off your 8th grade writing level that you don’t even bother building your sentences around coherent thoughts.
You write dumb shit like you’re trying to hit a word count.
I’ve read what you wrote and am firmly in the position of looking down on you due to your poorly thought out and immature views. No amount of writing skill is going to cover up your overall lack of intelligence, and you haven’t demonstrated any writing skill either. You can convince yourself I’m writing dumb shit just because you disagree with it. I don’t care…I just know better.
Illogical take and a false equivalence. These people could just go somewhere else and obviously do not support the rights of the protesters. In the freeway blocking situation, you’d be stopping the people who support Gaza from getting home to their kids the same as everyone else and they are literally trapped on the freeway vs. choosing to be in this pictured restaurant. You’d be trapping people who might not have water in the car, might not have A/C, might not have the gas to idle and wait, might be rushing to the hospital to meet the ambulance with their wife/child in it.
Your take is morally wrong in a demonstrable way and I hope you can learn to recognize that.
See, in this image, you would be the one standing in the back pissed off they can’t just get their lunch and would be mad at the protestors.
History happens every day. You need to not be mistaken where you stand in it.
These people are directly involved. The people on the highway have no control over anything in Gaza and it has nothing to do with their daily lives.
Firstly, getting food is different than literally being imprisoned in your car. Secondly, they could go to a different place and these people are actively attacking them not being victims of their protest.
If your devotion is to order, where your allegiance is to the polite convenience you’ve come to accept and expect as a first world consumer, you are no ally of justice.
For those that don’t know and because TropicalDingdong was a ding-dong and didn’t cite their quote, this is a quote from a letter written by Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King Jr during his time in jail after a protest.
Edit: He was a Reverend and a doctor, so I got mixed up getting his titles right.
I dont know what you are trying to get at. I think you should realize that getting on freeway and making everyone mad = bad protest; doing a sit-in and getting the harm visable = good protest.
Its that you make this comment without any comprehension of history.
In 1958, you would have been writing this exact same comment about a sit-in protest being “bad protest”. Your worldview just rewrites you into being on the right side of history on things, when now, when you have the opportunity to be on the right side of history while its happening, you aren’t.
Dude, I literally havent take a side, I am just telling you what I think works and what doesnt. If you think getting people fighting mad on a freeway is a way to win people over, I would have to disagree.
Like, I don’t know how else to explain this to you, but that is quite literally a “side”, both now and historically, in this discussion.
Read or learn literally anything about the history of protestation.
I assure you, you are already on a side, even if you dont know you are.
Again, no I am not taking a side, I am informing on what type of protest would be effective in my opinion.
Again with another poorly thought out opinion that does not logically connect your message with any real measure of virtue. Here you’re excusing the conduct of people who would block traffic by chalking it all up to countering the white moderate preferring an absence of tension, which is not a logical conclusion whatsoever as it could be similarly used to argue for hanging racists in the street. It’s ignoring the severity of the impact of the protest to break it down into a binary of support/nonsupport. “Either you’re with us or you’re against us.” is the mantra of forced conformity of thought. Seriously, do better.
Nah. Its you that needs to do better. No protest needs to apologize for inconveniencing you.
Your hand wringing is precisely what MLK was talking about.
No, it wasn’t…because he was talking about people who didn’t want to see black folks rise up at all if it meant disruption. I would be thrilled to see Gazans gain equality, their own state and be just fine with protestors disrupting the people who could actually affect those changes. Protesting by blocking regular folk from getting anywhere is rock bottom stupid because they don’t have any power to make the change…it’s taking their frustration out at the situation out on innocent people. Instead of speaking truth to power, it’s inflicting their will on the powerless. If you can’t tell right from wrong, that’s a you problem.
If you think MLK would have been all for trapping regular civilians on the US freeways for a war in another continent though, you’re a complete and utter moron.
“severity of impact” – a few hundred people made slightly late to things vs. tens of thousands of civilian deaths. How do you type this without pausing to consider how absolutely monstrous you’re being?
How do you type this without pausing to consider how absurdly hyperbolic you’re being? I don’t support Israel in its war against Gaza whatsoever, I was thrilled to see the war crimes charges against Netanyahu and public sentiment turning against the conditions there but if I don’t support freeway blocking protests in another continent that don’t even attempt to separate out those that support the war, I’m being “absolutely monstrous?” How could anyone be expected to take you seriously here when you exaggerate THAT badly?
Edit: Oh, and “Few hundred people made slightly late”
Gonna stop you right there. You have no idea how many cars get backed up for how long, who has drinking water, working Air Conditioning, emergencies to get to, whether or not someone died in an ambulance stuck in traffic. You’re making up the rosiest scenario, pretending this isn’t dangerous and life threatening, and then pretending that’s the reality as if you could know. It’s wildly dishonest.
You write dumb shit like you’re trying to hit a word count.
“excusing the conduct of people who would” literally delete this entire cringe flourish and you lose zero meaning. In fact you lose redundancy wHerEiN you first refer to what they’re doing and then just say what they’re doing in the same sentence. Sophomoric.
So high off your 8th grade writing level that you don’t even bother building your sentences around coherent thoughts.
I’ve read what you wrote and am firmly in the position of looking down on you due to your poorly thought out and immature views. No amount of writing skill is going to cover up your overall lack of intelligence, and you haven’t demonstrated any writing skill either. You can convince yourself I’m writing dumb shit just because you disagree with it. I don’t care…I just know better.
With true fidelity to my criticism you bore everyone with excessively verbose drivel that contributed nothing
oh noooo, they were stuck in car prison for 20 minutes, with the A/C on and their favorite music playing! the horror 😱😱
Illogical take and a false equivalence. These people could just go somewhere else and obviously do not support the rights of the protesters. In the freeway blocking situation, you’d be stopping the people who support Gaza from getting home to their kids the same as everyone else and they are literally trapped on the freeway vs. choosing to be in this pictured restaurant. You’d be trapping people who might not have water in the car, might not have A/C, might not have the gas to idle and wait, might be rushing to the hospital to meet the ambulance with their wife/child in it.
Your take is morally wrong in a demonstrable way and I hope you can learn to recognize that.
Nah.
Take a shower
Lmao