• gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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        4 months ago

        How about, you know, actually let her create and execute foreign policy before you judge her. She’s clearly started distancing herself from Biden’s carte blanche approach, but it’s not a good idea (electorally) to move to fast on that front, because AIPAC throws a LOT of cash around.

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          I deadass told everyone Biden was gonna copycat Obama’s policy because he was a VP with no plan of his own.

          He did exactly that.

          How tf is Kamala going to magically gain a moral conscious overnight, let alone a functioning policy plan that isn’t going to be a copy of Biden.

          Especially considering she was the least popular candidate in 2020.

          30 years of snake oil promises from literally every president and yet people still fall for the ol “let’s give them a chance to prove themselves”

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          4 months ago

          actually let her create and execute foreign policy before you judge her.

          So we don’t get to criticize a candidate before they take office?

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            4 months ago

            If you want to criticize them on their previous actions sure. But she isn’t the one sending the bombs. And her only actions so far have been to call for a ceasefire. Making up conversations between her and the Israelis isn’t criticizing her, it’s propaganda.

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              4 months ago

              She is the one who condemned protestors for protesting against Netanyahu’s address before Congress.

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                4 months ago

                The protest organizers let people march with Hamas flags and icons. That’s not acceptable in the current political climate.

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                    4 months ago

                    Hamas Flag

                    Palestinian Flag

                    Any questions?

                    You’re barking up the wrong tree. I understand Hamas as a resistance organization to nearly a century of military occupation, apartheid, and ethnic cleansing. All for the purpose of some 16th century colonialist idea of racial superiority.

                    But America ain’t there yet. So flying the colors of Hamas, spray painting their name, and wearing the red triangle are all things that force politicians to respond in a specific way. And unless someone figures out they were infiltrators or the photos were photoshopped then the organizers screwed up. When I marched with pro Palestinian groups earlier this year the organizers were on top of preventing that.

                    The biggest thing we can do going forward isn’t to lament a boiler plate statement, it’s to educate people on why Hamas exists in the first place.

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        4 months ago

        To be fair, while this may be her likely answer, she hasn’t spoken anything definitive on the issue. There is room for optisism even if it isn’t high.

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        4 months ago

        I would argue its the reverse, most the media is a corporate/billionaire owned. Billionaire and corporate media isnt going to act in the public’s best interest.

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          Billionaire and corporate media isnt going to act in the public’s best interest

          I absolutely agree with that. So why do we trust them on anything at all?

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            I do think a lot of well-meaning people go into journalism. It just means there’s some problems to look out for