• IceWallowCum [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    4 months ago

    What do these people think an integration would even look like? These articles and western propaganda in general just make it seem like chinese soldiers will storm into Taiwan and (???), which has pretty much been the american way since WWII.

    Taking over a country of shareholders, tech and service workers looks very different to taking over a country of farmers

      • ProletarianDictator [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        This is exactly what an “invasion” would look like: ceasing trade with the mainland.

        Maybe China would take extreme action and do a blockade.

        Either way, they’ll sit back and wait for Taiwan to fold first.

        If China really wanted to use military force, they could give Taiwan independence, do a handful of drone strikes on TSMC factories, and just wait until they beg to be reintegrated after the West can’t buy chips from them or use them as a wedge.

        We all saw how Russia outproduced all of NATO, and Ukraine is directly adjacent to their suppliers with fucking roads connecting them. Imagine doing the same thing, but while relying on countries several thousand miles away for not only weapons, but food and basic goods! How is importing all that stuff gonna go when the PLA Navy blocks or controls all your major ports?

        Idk what NATO strategists are thinking they’ll accomplish, but it can’t be military advantage or an independent Taiwan. Only way this makes sense is if they’re banking on China taking the bait, killing a few fellow Mandarin speakers, and getting fucked up by the political fallout.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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          It’s frankly weird that random people in the internet can understand these things while the intelligence experts in the west are seemingly unable to.

          • ProletarianDictator [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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            You don’t get into those positions by having a solid material analysis.

            Anyone in the armed forces who develops one would get tf out at the soonest opportunity. Understanding the current state of affairs requires (minimally) some understanding of how Marxist and anti-imperialist states operate, which usually leads to sympathizing with the cause, which inhibits their ability to perform their duties.

            Best you’re gonna get is a true believer with good grades from West Point. Tacticians with zero strategic ability. The ranks will be filled with overzealous fascists who jump at every opportunity to strike the enemy.

            It also doesn’t help that the US has no winning moves besides being marginally more intact after a nuclear war. They’re just sticking to what they know…apply sanctions, fund fascist opposition groups, and provoke militarily.

            The West doesn’t even know just how cooked it is yet.

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          I keep finding it weird how the US floated destroying TSMC “So tHe ChiNEsE cANt HaVe iT”. You’d think that would be enough to give some rich assholes very cold feet about separatism.