You have forgotten silken tofu. You have come undone. We’re for sure on the same page, but it’s not really a vegan thing, it’s people who suck at food. There’s plenty of trash meat recipes too. Tofu is for sure overused, I’ve made some tempeh using non soy beans and lemme tell ya, that’s a whole new world. Black bean, chickpea and navy bean tempeh all kick a lil ass and I wanna try one with sweet green beans too. But you gotta start with the experimental part and not force it into a role it’s not gonna fit. When you dick around with tempehs and seitans and stuff, you gotta roll with the results, same with any food experiment with a mew ingredient. You don’t trash it cause it doesn’t work for the what you were going for, you at least try to see if you can match it with something more appropriate. I did a Seiten hoping it’d make a cool vegan Philly cheesesteak and it turned out better for Bahn MI, that’s no loss, thars a lesson.