• You believe artistic expression that does not glorify the State is subversive behavior.

• You believe exercising any form of personal privacy is subversive behavior

• You believe it is theft (and subversive behavior) when someone else makes a profit from your labor, even though they pay you fair-market wages.

• You believe personal property should be abolished, and that no one should own anything, including their own bodies.

• You believe you are entitled access to free clothing, free education, free food, free housing, and free medical care from the State (e.g., the Bureaucracy) even if it is all sub-standard; but you will accept having to wait in line for days to receive any of it.

And these are just my personal favorite; there are plenty of other inane stereotypes in that thread, and this wonderfully mindnumbing caricature:

Obviously, Marx was a naïve idealist – ignorant of human nature and unhappy with the lack of free handouts he mistakenly believed he deserved for just being alive.

Look around. Capitalism works for those who know how to work it, and who are both willing and able to do so. The rest would become proletariat drones under any of the real-world “Communist” systems mentioned before (if they were allowed to live). Even Karl Marx was a slacker who lived off the wealth of others – I doubt that he would have survived in a real-world Communist state, or been happy in a real-world anarcho-syndicalist state.

Unsurprisingly, there is a grand total of zero citations in that thread, so it looks more like adults playing around than people attempting to have a meaningful discussion.

ETA:

• “Real” Communists are actually State Socialists currently living in Feudal Empires (e.g., China, Cuba, Laos, North Korea, and Vietnam).

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    True, but the people who say “AES countries are not communist 🤓” mean it to say that those countries are actually tyrannical regimes. Saying that these places are socialist isn’t gonna work because these people don’t know what that word means either.

    Anyway, you can argue that these countries are communist because they’re working to build communism, the same way that a communist party is communist. Because really, these words are synonymous to everyone but scholars.

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      Saying that these places are socialist isn’t gonna work because these people don’t know what that word means either.

      True. Exactly why these people need to shut up until they read more (or any) theory lol

      Anyway, you can argue that these countries are communist because they’re working to build communism, the same way that a communist party is communist.

      Indeed, good point. I do think it ought to be an educational priority to get people to understand and more commonly use this definition of “communist” as opposed to the “classless, moneyless” definition.

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      … the people who say “AES countries are not communist 🤓” mean it to say that those countries are actually tyrannical regimes.

      They’re kinda right but for the wrong reasons: as you say, AES haven’t reached full communism yet because there’s still a bourgeoisie; so they have to be tyrannical to the bourgeoisie to usher in the new world.