• selokichtli
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    2 个月前

    Hold on. I get tolerance to Nazis is not something societies should procure, but I personally will take anyone holding a banner, no matter how stupid it is, against anyone holding a weapon against whatever they find stupid.

    Of course, if those holding banners start grabbing guns, that’s another thing.

    EDIT: to all your rabid replies, understand one thing: I don’t support racist ideas. I do prefer stupid people with banners rather than stupid people with weapons. It’s not that hard to understand.

    • Katana314@lemmy.world
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      So how many levels of indirection is okay: (The following are sarcastic statements being made for the purposes of examples)

      Banner 1: “I’M GONNA SHOOT A BABY WITH A GUN.”
      Banner 2: “I support Banner 1.”
      Banner 3: “I support the person holding Banner 1 and their right to make statements of any kind.”
      Banner 4: “I don’t like the hyperbole of claiming that anyone is getting threatened.”
      Banner 5: “I support Banner 2.”
      Banner 6: “Cheese tastes good sometimes.”
      Banner 7: “Both banners, including Banner 1 and Banner 6, need to tone down their rhetoric and are just as bad.”
      Banner 8: “Banner 2 was attacked just for holding a banner. Free speech doesn’t exist anymore. Hostility is out of control.”

    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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      How about gerrymandering your vote away so that it’s ineffective, upending the political system checks and balances, and now they can rule with a minority and never fire a shot?

      Still good with that? Just shrug and say they did it within the limits of the system we have, we’re fucked, congrats you gamed the system and won?

    • zbyte64@awful.systems
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      So if a group unrolls a banner here saying where you live and the top 5 things that make your life meaningful and how to destroy those things, you would support their right to do that? A Nazi symbol is an endorsement of such tactics and should be treated as such.