just noticing a lot of very principle anti-genocidists very suddenly changing their focus, it is almost as if some pattern can be discerned through ignoring their statements and watching their behavior

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    man i hate this site sometimes

    “just noticing” that antigenocidalists… are still against the same thing they always have been, and are just using the same language that’s in the current news cycle in order to communicate it, same as you OP.

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      biden, whose brain is mush and body is turning to dust before our eyes, should simply use his infinite power to create peace in the middle east

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          It’s honestly hilarious how these liberals are mentally incapable of getting it.

          If they genuinely do not see how Democrats have been the steadfast accomplice of the fascist “Overton ratchet,” they are either malicious or incompetent.

          Sure copy and paste that list of Biden accomplishments again. As if the sweeping failures of the Dems aren’t well known at this point. Glass Steagall. PATRIOT. Citizens United. Obamacare. Kavanaugh. Roe vs Wade. The dismantling of SAVE.

          Keep appeasing the literal fucking fascists yall claim to be such an existential threat. Because appeasement totally works, that’s why liberals keep doing it!

          Like, yall know these fuckers play buddy buddy with each other in D.C.? The only ones willing to call out the bullshit of being friendly in the halls and calling for your death in the chamber are Squad members.

          Yes I’m fucking voting Biden you exhausting dense insufferable fascist enablers. And I’m going to laugh my ass off when they throw your asses in the same camp as me.

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    When push comes to shove, libs on lemmy punch left at strawmen they created. Sorry your candidate looks so weak to everyone that even the media cycle is about it.

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      Progressive Democrats are losing primary seats to AIPAC funded pro-genocide Democrats but these assholes still think the left should toe the line and vote blue.

      When are liberals going to do something for the left?

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      The thing is that Trump is even more of a geriatric, and actively endorses genocide. On top of all of his other bullshit.

      Yet it is only a problem when the Democrats do it.

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        You think there’s a lot of Trump supporters around here that need to hear it or something? I guess you’d have to go to trumpsocial or whatever they call whatever site they congregate on to talk to them, but plenty of ardent Biden stans are here to hear the Biden hate.

        Biden stans are also seen by most of his detractors here as simply misguided, not entirely lost causes. You can likely surmise they think the exact opposite of trump supporters, who mostly around here would get stuff like “kys” instead.

        You can say what you want about their politics, but the prevalence of Biden memes and the lack of Trump memes is logical for those reasons and likely more, as another commenter said you can only clean your own house and all.

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        Yet it is only a problem when the Democrats do it.

        you can clean your own house the way you want; but not other people’s houses.

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        Yes it’s true the left supports Trump. The American political binary has rotted your brain. It’s time for ALL Americans left of fascist to demand more from both parties. Democrats are the ones clutching defeat from the jaws of victory election after election.

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          The time to demand more isn’t 4 months before the election. It’s not really the year of the election. The time to demand more is 10+ years before the election, supporting better candidates in smaller elections, rallying behind those candidates as they climb the ladder, and supporting those candidates right after the last election before the one you want them to win.

          But I don’t see that. I see no more than a slim minority doing any demanding until the last minute, when it does more harm than good.

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            Progressive Democrats are primaried out by AIPAC funded pro genocide liberals and you put the blame on progressives.

            Liberals need to realize they’re not entitled to the left’s support without some effort and cooperation on their side.

            Your party are blue conservatives, clean up your own shit.

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              I’m not a Liberal, they’re not my party. They are the party out of the two front runners which is more aligned with my interests than the other.

              The left needs to realize it’s not a matter of entitlement, it’s simple game theory harm reduction. The environment in which you pursue leftist goals will be predominantly colored by the winner in November. You can enable an environment which is unfavorable to leftist empowerment, or extremely unfavorable to leftist empowerment.

              Would you rather try to push progressive action under Biden, or Trump? I personally believe progressive action will be more successful under Biden than Trump, so I will be voting accordingly. Blue conservatives are better for leftists than red fascists.

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    People are posting right now about a thing that’s in the news cycle right now? Say it ain’t so!

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    Why are you surprised that people are talking about the current news cycle? Is it seriously crazy that people who saw the debate are concerned?

    Do you legitimately think that people who have been anti-genocide have suddenly given up their anti-genocide stance to talk about the current news topic?

    And is someone who is anti-genocide supposed to be pro-geriatric, and therefore being anti-geriatric is pro genocide? It seems like you are creating a mutually exclusive false dichotomy.

    The message you are trying to push only works because you didn’t put anti-genocide on the other computer chip. You made a strawman.

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    Imagine being mad and clapping back at people who have been pointing out bidens complicity and support of a genocide…

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    libs, if you wanna be mad: go be mad at your shitty politician, not the ones criticizicing him. ask why your pet politician can’t stop signing money to israel instead of turning anti-genocide people into a stawman for some reason?

    nooooooo, obviously the right thing to do is just pandering to conservatives then acting entitled to leftist support, right?

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    I mean I thought it was a somewhat common opinion that Biden should only run for one term?

    The dropout thing only came up now because some party leaders mentioned it again (way too late)

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    Harder to get Americans to care about a president committing genocide than about a president being senile. I’m critical of him for both reasons and don’t make a secret about it.

    Everyone who’s not self-deluding can see that his senility is a problem, including mainstream publications like the NYT. The fact that that includes some people who were critical of him before is not exactly surprising.

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    Please take a deep breath and realize how absolutely pathetic it looks when you can’t accept that supporting genocide is immoral, or that Biden’s appearance can be explained by him having a cold. No “tanky” on Lemmy gives a single fuck who you do or don’t vote for. You’re frustrated with the wrong people.