just noticing a lot of very principle anti-genocidists very suddenly changing their focus, it is almost as if some pattern can be discerned through ignoring their statements and watching their behavior

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    When push comes to shove, libs on lemmy punch left at strawmen they created. Sorry your candidate looks so weak to everyone that even the media cycle is about it.

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      Progressive Democrats are losing primary seats to AIPAC funded pro-genocide Democrats but these assholes still think the left should toe the line and vote blue.

      When are liberals going to do something for the left?

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      The thing is that Trump is even more of a geriatric, and actively endorses genocide. On top of all of his other bullshit.

      Yet it is only a problem when the Democrats do it.

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        You think there’s a lot of Trump supporters around here that need to hear it or something? I guess you’d have to go to trumpsocial or whatever they call whatever site they congregate on to talk to them, but plenty of ardent Biden stans are here to hear the Biden hate.

        Biden stans are also seen by most of his detractors here as simply misguided, not entirely lost causes. You can likely surmise they think the exact opposite of trump supporters, who mostly around here would get stuff like “kys” instead.

        You can say what you want about their politics, but the prevalence of Biden memes and the lack of Trump memes is logical for those reasons and likely more, as another commenter said you can only clean your own house and all.

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        Yet it is only a problem when the Democrats do it.

        you can clean your own house the way you want; but not other people’s houses.

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        Yes it’s true the left supports Trump. The American political binary has rotted your brain. It’s time for ALL Americans left of fascist to demand more from both parties. Democrats are the ones clutching defeat from the jaws of victory election after election.

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          The time to demand more isn’t 4 months before the election. It’s not really the year of the election. The time to demand more is 10+ years before the election, supporting better candidates in smaller elections, rallying behind those candidates as they climb the ladder, and supporting those candidates right after the last election before the one you want them to win.

          But I don’t see that. I see no more than a slim minority doing any demanding until the last minute, when it does more harm than good.

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            Progressive Democrats are primaried out by AIPAC funded pro genocide liberals and you put the blame on progressives.

            Liberals need to realize they’re not entitled to the left’s support without some effort and cooperation on their side.

            Your party are blue conservatives, clean up your own shit.

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              I’m not a Liberal, they’re not my party. They are the party out of the two front runners which is more aligned with my interests than the other.

              The left needs to realize it’s not a matter of entitlement, it’s simple game theory harm reduction. The environment in which you pursue leftist goals will be predominantly colored by the winner in November. You can enable an environment which is unfavorable to leftist empowerment, or extremely unfavorable to leftist empowerment.

              Would you rather try to push progressive action under Biden, or Trump? I personally believe progressive action will be more successful under Biden than Trump, so I will be voting accordingly. Blue conservatives are better for leftists than red fascists.