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    6 months ago

    What will happen in the end is that Russia will win and dictate terms, the only question is how many more people have to die before westerners accept that.

    You answered yourself where the millions come from.

    You agree that Putin could stop the war, but can not see why it would make sense to not kill millions. That requires a particular disregard for life typical of Russia, and then russians act surprised when people hate them.

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      6 months ago

      You answered yourself where the millions come from.

      I didn’t, if you look at the link provided, Russian casualties have actually been going down. Apparently you don’t have a first clue regarding the subject you’re attempting to debate here. Let me explain a few basics to you. Most of the casualties in this war (around 80%) come from artillery fire, and Russia outguns Ukraine by a factor of around 10 to 1. Ukraine has at this point run through much of its professional army that was motivated and well trained, they’re now increasingly relying on conscripts with little training, and no motivation to fight. As the professional and motivated core of the army continues to shrink, an inflection point comes where the whole army starts to collapse. This is what happened to Germans at the end of WW2. This is what’s already starting to happen in Ukraine now. Armies don’t fight to the last man, once the collapse starts, it progresses very rapidly where the cohesion of the army falls apart.

      Also, I notice you have problems with reading comprehension. Because I told you the opposite. Putin can’t in fact stop the war because that would be an incredibly unpopular move politically in Russia.

      I’ve been explaining the same thing to you over and over in many different ways here. All you do is just keep regurgitating the same few points you’ve memorized. You’re not engaging in any actual discussion here, so I’m going to stop. Feel free to believe whatever you like, but I do hope that once the war ends you’ll do some self reflection and ask yourself what was achieved by prolonging the conflict.

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        6 months ago

        If we go back to the actual article, and the sources it cites, it looks like the will to fight is still there, so what you say does not appear to be true.

        Perhaps you care to provide sources to the contrary?

        Similarly, you say Putin can’t stop the war, because he is afraid of the Russian people. Is it not also true that stopping the war is incredibly unpopular in the west too? Is Putin as weak as the western leaders? I thought he had massive support from the population and that the people respects his opinion?

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          6 months ago

          Of your entire understanding of the conflict is based on a single article then I see where you’re coming from.

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            6 months ago

            It isn’t, and I did not say so. But I’ll go ahead and use the same logic as you, and conclude that your understanding of the war is not based on any information at all, since you have not mentioned a single source so far.