Of course the virus itself won’t disappear but hopefully all measures limiting our daily lives.

Personally I think Omicron is the last variant of concern and as many countries have agreed on it’s fortunately not dangerous enough for restrictions to make sense anymore.

I don’t think a new more dangerous variant will emerge. If it did, I’d think that to be rather suspicious.

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    What are you talking about? There’s no linear downward path for COVID variants that assumes each new variant will be milder than the last.

    Well, most of our top virologists/epidemiologist (Klaus Stöhr, Christian Drosten, Hendrik Streeck, Alexander Kekule) expect COVID-19 will soon be endemic. Drosten thinks it will still take a little longer and more vaccinations but Stöhr says that the pandemic will end in summer.

    The Spanish Flu ended after people stopped dying in high numbers, and people adhered to quarantine rules which played a huge factor in the Spanish Flu ending.

    Let me cite Wikipedia about the Spanish Flu for you:

    By 1920, the virus that caused the pandemic became much less deadly and caused only ordinary seasonal flu.

    Why are you cherry picking a single country?

    I am not. Check for yourself and tell me how there are more countries with Omicron having a higher death toll than previous variants: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html I picked the UK because they already went through the Omicron wave and I thought their visualization was good, that’s the only thing you could consider cherry picking.

    Please do check your facts before claiming I am wrong.

    And what amount of deaths per day in a nation would you find acceptable enough to give up on precautionary restrictions? The USA’s seven day average is 2600 deaths per day. You believe that at that current rate, the USA and other nations equally impacted by COVID should remove restrictions?

    If the healthcare system can handle the number of patients admitted I am fine with lifting pretty much all restrictions. I really do not like how the goalpost has been moving (at least in my country) during the pandemic. A lot of people seem to be unable to understand that we can not save everyone, as sad as it is. Before COVID-19 happened a lot of vulnerable people died because we didn’t do lockdowns during flu waves. I ask you: How could you accept so many people dying, while we could have locked down the whole world for each flu wave?

    Again, people were willing to take precautionary measures during the Spanish Flu. By your logic, we shouldn’t have worn masks at any point in the pandemic and we should have just let the various COVID variants rip through the population. You’re completely misunderstand what most researchers are saying, and instead you’re reading up what “some” researchers are explaining.

    Lol, no of course that’s not what I am saying! The Spanish Flu has been a lot more dangerous than the Omicron variant is now. What I am saying is that there probably is going to be a point in time where COVID-19 is mild enough that no restrictions are needed anymore. I personally think we will reach this situation pretty soon / have reached it with Omicron.

    You’re quite plainly wrong and you’ve yet to provide a single valid reason as to why we should stop wearing masks.

    Are you telling me you can see into the future and know that a more dangerous variant is just around the corner which would make wearing masks necessary? Also note that this is the first time I said that I expect the pandemic to be over soon.

    Wrong again. The long-term implications of contracting COVID, even for young, healthy adults, can be devastating.

    Please give me numbers. I do not believe this is very common and have yet to see a study that confirms that those devastating effects are causing deaths in high numbers.

    people like you can’t be bothered to wear a mask

    Thanks for that… I do wear a mask but comments like this only provoke me to throw shit back at you. This is exactly what I meant with being more friendly and refraining from ad hominem attacks. This only weakens your point and makes me angry.

    Your comparison is ridiculous and I cannot believe I have to explain that car crashes aren’t contagious-- if you drive by a car crash, that has no impact on the likelihood of you getting into a car crash.

    Lol, how does this affect my comparison of death rates. Oh, right it doesn’t! I am merely comparing death rates of car crashes and COVID-19 for people under 30. Like that I can roughly assess how dangerous COVID-19 is. Also note that the situation is the same with severe injuries due to car crashes and severe cases of COVID-19. Car crashes are more common and thus more dangerous for people under 30.

    Again, let me repeat the one point that you conveniently failed to answer. Do you have any educational background in science or medicine that you’re basing your opinion off of?

    Oh, nice more ad hominem attacks. As you insist: I have studied physics and now study mathematics.

    but you can’t be bothered to wear a mask and exercise caution to potentially save a person’s life

    As I already said, I have been wearing masks and done social distancing throughout the whole pandemic.

    support your blatant confirmation bias

    You do realize, that you haven’t provided a single source for your claims and that your claims are also biased (and even wrong)?