More and more people are saying this!

Not in Florida, apparently.

Yeah this is definitely just the bourgeoisie wanting to cull the weak. I also think that anti-masking is coming from liability concerns. If everyone is masking, that means that people are in danger, capital accumulation cannot proceed, and workers will have grounds for lawsuits (at the very least). Any sort of universal policy or program is also a danger to the bourgeoisie, which maximizes profits by atomizing people into individual consumers.

Oh another thing did anyone have parents who would intentionally spread chickenpox

Just one year before the chicken pox vaccine was released, my parents deliberately inoculated me by taking me to play with a sick child in the neighborhood. Thanks for the shingles (if I make it that long) mom and dad!

GOOD post

For what it’s worth, there is some basis for children developing allergic

It’s actually complicated. Looks like the original hypothesis came from a RETVRN perspective about the industrial revolution and hay fever[1][3]. However, even experts in 2016 who have access to data suggest there is immune benefit to going outside[2]. My mind jumps to the idea that aspergillosis is really bad and aspergillus is a pernicious, clinically significant type of fungus. However, it’s also ubiquitous and symbiotic in soil. That’s a disease you wouldn’t focus effort to get rid of as looser, more bleached out soil likely has downstream effects. The same way you wouldn’t want to bother trying to rid your microbiome of Clostridioides difficile, an opportunistic pathogen that only goes bad when your immune system is weakened or antibiotics wipe out everything suppressing it. Additionally, there are zoonotic diseases whose reservoirs, and their food webs, wouldn’t be keen on eradication.

Before the advent of the varicella vaccine or in its absence, I’m not sure I would be a detractor of the pox party [4]. I think there are fights worth fighting as far as infectious disease go. I’m sure there’s a lot of COVID deniers who would watch their tone if their community were overrun by a hemorrhagic fever like the one caused by ebola. But microbiology continues to be funny in the way that it’s tricky and complicated. When you came out of this messy world through the womb, you inherited 10 bacterial cells for ever 1 human cell and you wouldn’t function properly or feel good without them. I remember when I was working at the adrenachrome factory there was a brief moment where I had to count agar plates. We were talking shop and I stumbled up the work of Dr. Scott Sutton whose website seems to be down [5]. “Ideally you would never see two separate dilutions with counts in the countable range, as the countable ranges cover a ten-fold range of CFU. However, this is microbiology.” And I think he sums it up how I feel about it.

[1] Is Staying Home Harming Your Child’s Immune System? https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/10/parenting/children-immunity-staying-home-coronavirus.html

An interesting read from 2020 idk I just read until they gave me the studies I was interested in. I’m sure the NYT had a shitty perspective on COVID. This meta-analysis from 2016 they cited has all the data you’d ever want to know and more on the subject[2]

[2] https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1757913916650225

The meta-analysis: Time to abandon the hygiene hypothesis: new perspectives on allergic disease, the human microbiome, infectious disease prevention and the role of targeted hygiene

[3] https://www.bmj.com/content/299/6710/1259

The controversial origin of getting sick for the hell of it

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pox_party

Bonus ragebait

[5] http://www.microbiologynetwork.com/counting-colonies.asp

I think this is the right, broken link

That’s the plan. #N95Gang

same, except I thought it was a non-doctor person. Doctors don’t care about that shit

Deeply unserious how most of the world lives in an alternate false reality tho

No, in Florida that’s pretty standard for Doctors. Our surgeon general was Anti-Vaxx, after all.

It’s healthier for people not to wear seatbelts and then to get into car crashes at least a few times per year.

average Florida doctor

My grandma’s doctor told her that the covid vaccine was dangerous and that covid wasn’t real and was invented by the ruling class to, uh, whatever it is antivax assholes say

and he became a (very) minor antivax celebrity of sorts and went around giving talks about all this

the american medical system is not okay

Pretty much everyone who’s had covid should consider themselves immunocompromised, comrade. That’s why we’re experiencing mass immune dysregulation.

“Wearing a mask” and “living your entire life in a clean room” are hardly equivalent risks.

You don’t need to be exposed to large viral loads to build immunity, you can actually build immunity with very limited exposure as long as the immune system is activated to some extent. Exposure level determines the severity of the illness, masks allow people to limit their exposure without hermetically sealing them off from all exposure entirely. Less sick, same immune response.

I mean, that is how it works, your immune system needs to be regularly exposed to things to stay active and function properly.

That’s the immune system as a muscle myth, comrade. That’s really not how it works. Most immunity you gain from one pathogen does not carry over to unrelated pathogens. And much like Covid demonstrates, there are a number of pathogens that do damage to your immune system.