• Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz
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    Yeah there was an agreement in Paris in 2015, and the one of the first things Trump did when elected to office was to back out of that deal. Never trust an (unsuccessful) business man to choose what is best for people, they only care about making more money for themselves and to hell with all the people that die or get hurt along the way.

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      We rejoined in 2021.

      The doomer view is that even that agreement was too little too late. We should’ve been doing this stuff in the 80s.

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        At this point can we really call it a “doomer view” or just reality? We’re several decades late on dealing with this problem and it’s entirely possible we’re gonna miss the boat completely.

        Or tell me I’m wrong and show me there’s still hope.

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          There’s still hope.

          The truth is, most conservation act are built on thebidea that if we just stop damaging earth, it’ll go back to normal.

          That would be ideal, but we might have missed that boat.

          But, there are also all sorts of industrial carbon sequestration methods we aren’t taking into account.

          When we get serious about fixing the environment, we’ll build machines that suck pollution out of the sky and sea.

          We’re possibly too late for a passive effort, but we have the option of an active effort to use geo-engineering to fix this.

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          I’d love to tell you that, but I found Deep Adaptation compelling. I don’t think we get out of it without technologies that do not exist, developed with funding that is not prioritized.

          Somehow I still manage to be disappointed with the state of things often which means I must have some slight hope that things will stop I guess.

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        Considering major oil companies like Exxon buried their own studies in the 70’s showing that this was going to happen, there was a lot we could have done back when small changes would have been easy. Now we’re fucked – it’s going to hurt everyone to make the changes needed, and the effects of climate change that we can’t stop are going to hurt even more – but hey it’s ok because the big corporations made their money and too bad for the rest of us. We’re not on the brink of extinction yet, but I’m betting life in another 50-100 years is going to be unrecognizable to what we were used to in the 80’s.

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      It had no teeth. Unsurprisingly many countries are failing to meet their targets.

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    Clearly politicians continue to know more than climate scientists. I mean, numbers going up is a good thing, right?

    We are so fucked.

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      We are indeed well and truly fucked.

      I do wonder how bad it’s going to get before we actually react. Clearly we need to change our entire tax system to be based on carbon expenditure. That’ll both tax wealth more, so it’s progressive, and drive towards efficiency. The age of flying for a holiday, should all but end. Maybe a once in a lifetime thing, rather than once or twice a year.

      But nothing will change. Poor people will die. Rich people will continue to sip champagne while they fly over the people wallowing in the dust-bowl below.

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      Don’t we deserve it if we keep voting for those kind of politicians, and reject the ethical ones?

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    Those crazy people who would be on the corner saying its the “end days” are starting to look pretty smart right now.

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      I think it’s better not to speak of the “end days” but rather of a time that will become more gradually unbearable. It will not happen rapidly, but faster than people expect, I suppose. If we can be honest about the direction and speed, maybe more people would get on board with climate conservation acts.

      I’m excited about electric cars. And electric everything, for that matter. Once we can store large amounts of electricity with massive batteries and once we can generate more electricity with renewable sources, we will be golden.

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      Once the boat sinks we all go into the water. But it’ll take a while so for now cognac is still being served on the upper decks.