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Utter bullshit:
https://democrats.org/who-we-are/who-we-serve/lgbtq-community/
https://19thnews.org/2023/03/trans-bill-of-rights-federal-reintroduced/
https://www.axios.com/2023/06/30/house-democrats-states-trans-legislation
You can’t blame them for not trying when they provenly have done many times over- and you cant’t blame them for not succeeding when it is not entirely up to them to pass these bills.
Weird how rethuglicans always push demonic legislation through even when they’re the minority, while demonrats never succeed even when they are the majority. It’s almost as if they don’t actually give a shit about instating legislation to protect the groups they claim to want to protect and are only using threats to marginalized people to get donations. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
“Yes, we have one party here. But so does America. Except, with typical extravagance, they have two of them!” – Julius Nyerere
I look forward to letting the settlers flounder in November. Until the Atlanta Cop City protestors are free, until the concept of Cop Cities die, until the police departments no longer get funded under 1033, until carceral slavery in this country is abolished, I will not be voting for another actual-ghoul democrat.
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You didn’t read my article. My critique is that the democratic party is not doing enough and too quick to capitulate. There are plenty of things they could be doing, and in some ways they have minimized harm on a state level, but it’s not enough. One example I gave was that Joe Biden was happy to compromise in his executive order.
Additionally, I talk about the framing of transition as a decision between “parents, doctors, and their children” as something that inherently deprioritizes the self-actualization of trans children and trans people more broadly, as, historically and currently, parents and doctors have been some of the main figures capable of abusing trans people. I talk about my own abuse by doctors, being subjected to completely legal conversion therapy and the troubled teen industry.
Though I’m originally a trans refugee from a red state, I now live in a blue state and many of my trans friends have gone homeless as children and most have dealt with severe abuse from their parents. Even here, some of my friends have gone through conversion therapy as a minor, where it is technically supposed to be illegal. Democrats have not done enough to help trans children not just from hostile republican laws, but also from abusive doctors and parents. I encourage you to actually read my article and engage with it fully.
Your article is basically saying, “Sure, I poured gasoline everywhere and lit the match, but you didn’t grab the hose fast enough so it’s your fault the house burned down.”
No, Republicans are killing trans kids. Democrats are stuck with trying to push a centrist agenda while the Republicans cry out that they’re being too liberal.
And what’s your solution to the “parent and doctor” system? While imperfect, if you let teens transition without their parents’ consent, you’re opening a not insignificant number of them to violence in the home when the parents figure it out. Getting the parents on board is way safer than trying to cut them out, especially since so many trans people already end up homeless in adulthood, we don’t need to exacerbate the problem for teens.
Interesting, so you’re blaming trans people now for, as you say, “setting things on fire?” i-e, the discrimination and oppresive social norms and laws we’re up against?
At the end of the day, if you have a parent that neglectful towards their children that them transitioning would be dangerous for them, trans children should be able to relocate to live with a supportive family member, or, if none are available, relocate to a found family, such as with a nearby friend or with families who volunteer to house trans youth. The other alternative to staying with parents who don’t support us is years of trauma, and the 40% number will stay the same. That’s what I had to go through.
However, found families are also often illegal. The only state to my knowledge with a similar law to what I’m asking for is Washington: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/transgender-minors-protected-from-estranged-parents-under-washington-law.
This is a great step in the right direction. But not enough states have these laws, and even still, there aren’t enough transitional services for trans youth entering adulthood. Meanwhile, trans children stuck in red states are basically completely screwed.
No, I’m blaming Republicans for setting things on fire. They’re working hard to keep the hate engine going after it stopped being cool to hate gay people.
Pulling kids out of homes is always a tough call. The foster system has a lot of issues and abuse is far too common. And while it might stave off some abuses at home, taking kids out of the home pulls away a lot of the resources kids need to succeed.
The sad truth is the country learned absolutely zero lessons from the struggle over gay marriage, so it’s going to be another 20-30 years of bullshit before everyone begrudgingly admits trans people are people too. While I feel for the trans kids in shitty homes, I think the biggest priority is stopping the abusive laws in half the country first. And Republicans are 100% the ones to blame for those.
That’s a really easy call to make when you’re not the one experiencing these things. The foster care system is fucked up too, and is also a place trans kids, and, well, frankly, kids in general are horribly abused under. The trans kids in shitty homes don’t care whether or not you “feel bad for them” if they can’t live through the abuse long enough to become adults. I’m one of the “lucky” ones. Ever think about why the average elder (more than 7 years of transition) trans person is capable of putting up with so much bullshit? Because the ones of us who weren’t able to are dead already. 40% of trans people attempt suicide.
To quote Martin Luther King Jr. in his Letter from Birmingham Jail:
“First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.”
You’re comparing apples to oranges. King was talking about moderates who were vacillating over supporting civil rights out of fear of tension, not kids in the foster care system. I’m 100% for updating the Civil Rights Act to say you can’t discriminate against trans people, period, and automatically invalidating all the insane laws out here.
What we’re talking about is pulling kids out of homes. And the evidence on that is clear: Bad homes are better than foster care. I’m sorry that your childhood sucked, but statistically speaking, your life statistically would not have been any better if you had left home, and may have actually been worse. Yes, it should obviously still be an option in extreme situations, but your proposal that such a thing should be implemented when the evidence shows that it will cause more harm is not a viable solution to the problem. All it will do is put more stress on an already broken system.
Sure, magically if we could make the foster system perfect tomorrow, and magically could fix all the laws tomorrow, then maybe it would make sense. But if we had that sort of magic, we could magically fix shitty parents, too.
I did leave home. My parents kicked me out of the house, but friends allowed me to stay with them. That’s the only reason I survived. If you read my article, I advocate primarily for direct action and tangible things you can do to help us. The comparison I draw from the quote I gave you is about your idea that we just need to wait a few years. We just need to go through a few more election cycles, and everything will be fixed.
I think that’s ridiculous. We can take action now.
If you have a trans friend that’s about to be homeless, or hell, any friend who is about to be homeless, you can let them sleep on your couch.
If Moms for Liberty or other fascist groups are coming to your local school board meeting (they are, I promise you), you should go over there and speak in support.
If fascists are threatening queer people at the local drag show, you should show up with your friends and stand up for what is right, because the police won’t. In fact, they’re most likely there out of uniform.
Vote for democrats if you want. I don’t care. I do harm reduction voting too. But it’s not enough, and I’m just begging allies to care enough to show up in real life where it matters. If you read my call to action, I say exactly this.
No, I’m blaming Republicans for setting things on fire.
Okay.
Let us imagine two brothers, Republican and Democrat. Democrat listens as Republican promises to burn down the house, watches as Republican fills up containers with gasoline, and stands by while Republican pours gasoline on everything and lights it on fire.
Democrat could have stopped things from getting this far. By letting Republican get this far, Democrat becomes an accomplice.
Well, no. For the past decade, Republicans have been doing shitty things and then complaining the Democrats don’t do enough to stop them. They filibuster any actual useful law, and then push a bunch of terrible laws in red states while using Republican-appointed judges to back them. The Democrats are forced to drag Republicans kicking and screaming and kiss their asses just to keep them from shutting the water off before they set the house ablaze.
That doesn’t make them an “accomplice,” that makes them the only thing stopping this lunacy at a national level. If Republicans get a filibuster-proof majority in Congress and the presidency next election, they 100% will pass the red state laws on a national level and you’ll be pining for the days where the Democrats were doing damage control.
What specific thing did the Democrats have the opportunity to do that they didn’t do? Not some vague “They should have done more,” what specific law did they have the clear numbers for that they refused to pass?
What specific thing did the Democrats have the opportunity to do that they didn’t do?
Under Obama they had Democratic supermajority and a Democratic president, and they didn’t use this to nip this problem in the bud. They could have changed Senate rules back then to do all sorts of shit and they chose not to do anything at all. As far as I’m concerned, it’s their fault that McConnell was able to pack the Court in the first place. Then, when they got their majority back and had a mandate after Trump’s disastrous term, they chose to not expand the Court and undo the Court packing that had already taken place.
So now when my red state decides to forcibly detransition me in Biden’s second term, Democrats will do jack shit about it.
That’s just the procedural stuff in Washington. Politics is a lot bigger than just electing representatives! They could have used their platform to organize angry citizens pushing social change on all other levels of society. Republican politicians have names and addresses. Republicans have associates and donors. Family. Republicans have businesses, investments, and property. A properly organized People’s movement could make their lives a living hell and make it impossible for them to do their jobs. Democrats won’t do that, though, because it would be uncivil.
I read your article. It’s nothing but slander. You can’t aggressively accuse an entire political party of being the reason you’re marginalized, and then ask them for help at the same time.
Especially when they’ve provenly tried time and again to help and have the receipts to validate it.
What the democrats are doing is plenty- IF what they are doing could succeed past the submissions of the bills/laws. Your article is biting the hand. Nothing more.
You can’t aggressively accuse an entire political party of being the reason you’re marginalized, and then ask them for help at the same time.
Settlers like you say this every day and wonder why they’re bleeding like stuck pigs in the polls. You can’t expect support when you make no moves to ACTUALLY pass anything, when you only offer up performative breadcrumbs for the marginalized that are doomed to get swatted down by the republicans you hide behind because you didn’t do what you people do every time it comes time to give weapons to genocidal europeans and attach it as a rider to something that HAS to be passed.
The way you people play the game isn’t slick. You can’t be a skullduggerous settler and then expect help from the people whose eyes you spit in on the daily.
This sounds a whole lot like “Shut the hell up and be greatful you’re even getting this much help!”. Democrats are not doing enough. They could do way more. It wasn’t that long ago that they had the house, senate, and presidency. They don’t because they think it will hurt their election chances. Should I and my other queer friends be grateful that no matter where we are, red state or blue state? lots of us still experience conversion therapy? Or that so many of us are homeless? Or that sex work is one of the few reliable sources of income (yet highly criminalized, leading to hugely exploitative conditions!) for trans people?
This sounds a whole lot like “Shut the hell up and be greatful you’re even getting this much help!”.
Because it is. And god help you if you DO decide to walk away, 'cause that’s when the crackers start wishing horrific death upon you at the hands of the people they claim are their enemies. “Don’t you know they’ll put you in a camp? Don’t you know they’ll gun you down in the streets? Don’t you know those republicans are looking for a reason to lynch people?” (Like democrats haven’t been funding the single biggest lynch mob on the planet since Obama’s administration)
So… you admit you are getting help, but yelling at those helping because it’s not enough??
You’re going to get the help you get until we can get rid of the conservatives that block those trying to help you.
Maybe you can help this along by telling those who are shouting at people to not vote. Because every third part vote, and every protest non-vote is barreling you towards even worse treatment-
And yes. This sounds a lot like “plug your nose and vote for someone you don’t like.”
Because THAT is what decades of inaction and people whining on the internet every four years gets you.
Do harm reduction voting if you want. I do that to- I voted for Biden. But it’s not enough. Trans people need help now. If you read my article’s call to action (which, despite you claiming to have read it, you repeatedly demonstrate that you haven’t by bringing up electoralism), I advocate for direct action. Doing things like showing up to your local school district’s board meetings (fascists like moms for liberty are already there, even if you’re in a blue state. Don’t let them monopolize the conversation.). I ask for people to show up and counterprotest when fascists target drag shows. I ask for people to participate in protests of civil disobedience, as well as to lend their couch to the their local trans person at risk of homelessness. That has a much more tangible real life impact on trans people right now than virtue signaling by democratic politicians.
Suggesting to everyone what they can do, and how- in and of itself is a great way to shine a light on necessary and urgently needed changes to pressing civil issues- but….
slandering an entire political party for not helping as much as you’d like?
Isn’t the right way to go about it.
Especially when they seemingly bend over backwards to try and help- despise strong opposition.
Fuck your civility politicking. Fuck your tone policing. Fuck your optics pearl-clutching. None of those change the facts we live under. Actually do better, actually get in your politicos’ asses to make them stop supporting the manifold genocides they fund, and maybe you won’t get slagged-- 'cause right now, your genocidaires are moving obviously to line their own pockets and maintain their own comforts.
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Wow, awesome reading comprehension. Wanna have another go at the article and try again? This time, you should try reading it the whole way through instead of getting mad at the insinuation that democrats could do better. Once you’rw done, please point to my call to action and decide whether or not I call for electoralism or advocate for allies to join us in direct action.
No.
Hahahaha
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Sorry but giving kids full autonomy is not the answer.
Some things are the way they are because the alternative is worse. This is one of those things.
