N.B. misandry is not real because men are not systemically oppressed (uninternalize your reddit MRA today: men suffer some drawbacks under the patriarchy but ultimately still maintain it due to the large amount of privileges they receive under it!)

  • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    6 months ago

    misandry is not real because men are not systemically oppressed

    Structural misandry doesn’t exist, but “misandry isn’t real” is not something I’d agree with. It exists on an individual level. It’s just not a real systemic issue.

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      6 months ago

      There’s definitely cases of structural misandry, it’s just not as nearly as common as structural misogyny. There are fields of work where men are definitely discriminated against/less preferred. Divorce/child custody is historically slanted towards women, although that’s downstream of historical misogynistic forces (women having trouble with employment, pay equity, etc) and it’s become more equitable. I think you could make the argument that combat military service in some countries being restricted solely to men is a form of structural misandry.

      Just to reiterate, I am not trying to do gender wars. I am gender Switzerland.

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      Idk to me it still makes more sense to frame it in the context of feminism internalized misogyny

      it really seems my tomboy wife who was influenced by her dad to be a boy because he wanted a boy and thus she inititially hated women (they treated her badly growing up, continued to hate them and uhh say weird stuff like women are inherently manipulative when she is moreso really headstrong and act before you think) and when she hated men it wasn’t for stuff you could not explain by sayinf they were chuds or cruddy.

      Where as with most hatred towards women does seem to be poorly explained without the conception of a patriarchy or as women being considered or once considered property of men.