The U.S. military has started moving a pier towards the Gaza coast, a U.S. official said on Wednesday, one of the last steps before the launch of a maritime port promised by President Joe Biden to speed the flow of humanitarian aid to Palestinians.
The U.S. military opted to pre-assemble the maritime pier at Israeli port of Ashdod earlier this month due to weather conditions at the Gaza site where it will now be installed.
Officials hope the pier can be anchored to the coast of Gaza and aid can start flowing in the coming days.
“Earlier today, components of the temporary pier … along with military vessels involved in its construction, began moving from the Port of Ashdod towards Gaza, where it will be anchored to the beach to assist in the delivery of international humanitarian aid,” a U.S. official said.
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Wtf is even the fucking point? If we’re gonna give Israel the weapons to genocide them with one hand why even bother with this fake bullshit “aid” with the other hand? Is anyone fooled by this?
International politics is complicated. Would you actually rather them just let civilians starve to death as well?
That is what they are already doing by allowing Israel to keep the border crossings closed.
This pier is as useless as letting the civilians starve to death because none of that aid will reach them because Israel only agreed to the port if they also get to dictate what goes through.
ie they built a new a closed on arrival marine aid route that will likely get bombed by the IDF anyway.
Bombing a US controlled port would be pretty close to a declaration of war against the US. Israel isn’t that dumb.
The USS Liberty: “Am I a joke to you?!”
Wouldn’t be the first time. Hell, wouldn’t be the first time they murdered Americans this genocide either.
We are. By letting the idf control what goes through the port, it will do nothing to help. As such we are letting them starve to death and remain facilitation genocide.
Look man, the problem with arguing with these people is that they are hard stuck. Biden could tell us exactly what the issue is, take his entire staff to Gaza, put on an apron, and begin filling bowls with soup, and people will be like, “HE ISN’T GRABBING A GUN AND FIGHTING BACK”
It’d be funny if it wasn’t so tiring and sad.
I play both sides, that way I always come out on top.
It so they can export the natural gas they are going to steal from Gaza
There’s a nonzero chance Israel bombs the pier “accidentally” and then maybe we’ll see some shit.
They settled for a few mil and called it a day
Yeah, this time the pier has been telegraphed for months. No fog of war bullshit. If they hit it I fully expect a self defense response.
If they hit the pier I hope we drop a MOAB on the IDF HQ. Itd be funny.
Were shoot our own sometimes too. Doesn’t mean it was deliberate.
I’m well aware. But there’s absolutely no way Israel doesn’t I ow exactly where the pier is or that the US will be there, so if anything happens it is not an accident.
USA has the freedom to fly over Israel and airdrop food, build a floating pier to send boats, I suppose with Israel approval, but can’t have trucks driven into Gaza. There is a very weird relation going on.
The US, and likely Israel, want no US military on the ground. The risk of an international incident is too high with Israels indescriminate bombing.
Thats why the air drops and the pier exists. Even US soliders driving aid trucks, or maybe especially US soldiers driving aid trucks, would cause huge issues for both countries, even as it would likely save lives overall.
One “accidental” airstrike on a US military aid convoy and you have real shit happening. Not to mention Hamas, fucks that they are, would be glad to kill some Americans if they could.
Its a 70+ yr mess, and ain’t no one is solving it unless everyone involved is on board.
Armed boats and planes are a lot more difficult for Hamas terrorists to hijack and commandeer versus an unescorted slow moving heavy transport truck.
So far the only attacks on food trucks have been done by Israeli’s with the IDF standing idly by, watching it happen.
If you have proof otherwise, please show it.
I have no proof, fuck Israeli settlers, I hope they never see peace.
Armed boats and planes are a lot more difficult for the IDF terrorists to blockade and bomb versus an unescorted slow moving heavy transport truck.
My reflection is on the USA Israel relation. Hamas is gonna Hamas no matter what.
The entire force and best efforts from the United States military took over a month to build a pier and cost millions of dollars? Why the fuck did it take so long and cost so much?
Preparing for all the friendly fire
“Israel has recently announced they suspect members of Hamas to be hiding out in the recently constructed US Pier”
I know this is supposed to be a sarcastic joke. However, nothing surprises me anymore. I won’t be surprised if such a thing would happen.
“Our bad, we thought you were a journo”
How long does it normally take to build a pier for offloading commercial cargo?
It’s a military floating pier so a few days tops.
Is that normally how long piers of this type and size take for the military?
This type and size?
Well what are it’s exact specifications?
Yes, you’re right in that it’s probably quite a large one, but for military pioneers who’ve got a fire under their arse, a month is a loong time. (Edit I looked at images and it really doesn’t seem that big. Dk.)
So we can only assume no-one was in such a rush.
I agree with the earlier guy that this could’ve been managed faster, if there had been will enough to do so.
The capabilities of military pioneers are quite literally awesome. As in, generating a feel of awe.
The first Allied bridge across the Rhine- Waterloo Bridge-was constructed by the Royal Engineers, assisted by 173 Pioneer Company, in the record time of 13 hours despite enemy fire and adverse weather. Casualties were light. The building of the Rhine railway bridge and its approaches from Griethausen to Spijk was an important operation. Working with the Sappers, four Pioneer Companies were engaged on its construction and in less than four weeks the bridge, some 2,600 ft in length, was open to traffic.
https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/the-pioneer-corps-british-army-of-the-rhine-1943-46/
And that was 80 years ago. Capabilities have improved quite a bit since.
The bridge was usable after 4 weeks then?
No. In less than a day. Some say 13 hours other sources 10. Hours. Hours. While in adverse weather conditions and under enemy fire.
https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryPorn/s/rmorD1eiMv
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontoon_bridge
Id even know why I’m arguing this with someone who’s never talked to or even seen a military pioneer (or “combat engineer” as Americans like calling them.)
And for the more visually minded https://youtu.be/Lq1cbKnDdco?si=M5qSZP0DlYeBkEbT
They were literally portable bridges that could hold tanks and be set up in a “very big hurry”.
It says built in 13 hours but usable for traffic in 4 weeks, and I am trying to parse that.
There was a temporary pontoon bridge then, and then a more permanent bridge for traffic built? I ask because pictures I initially saw were quite larger than the initial bridge, which made me question the within a day time.
I suppose it depends if the Gaza pier is closer to the first than the second. While the Gaza pier is described as temporary, it seems built to handle high and continuous cargo traffic. I imagine constructing such a platform which is also seaworthy enough to be towed requires more tasks than a single lane pontoon bridge. I also wonder how much of the Gaza pier had to be adapted and customized compared to pre-fabricated bridge segments.
Given the difference in type of work, and prefabricated material I wonder if 4 weeks is reasonable or not still. An example of similar maritime construction would be useful I suppose.
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You should have quoted fir the job
Had to get the pain and suffering out first.
This your first encounter with the government?
It wouldn’t involve America if it didn’t take too long and cost too much.
What’s the reasonable cost for a pier like this?
Zero, because the money we’re giving to Israel should go to it instead.
It would still have a cost, just paid for from a different source. I was curious how much a pier of this kind is supposed to actually cost, but I misunderstood, and see you were making an entirely different point unrelated to that.
Fair enough, I don’t know the answer to that. But I would also suggest that the corrupt nature of the Military-Industrial Complex means that it will cost a lot more than it would if it were a similar domestic civilian government contract.
