Why does my pc have a heart attack everytime this bloatware updates? Then it takes forever to load once I shutdown and restart. Thanks Bill Gate$ (satan).
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I dual boot with Linux. Every time Windows 10 does a major update, it clears out the Linux boot entries. I’m convinced it’s deliberate anti-competitive shit.
GRUB 2 stays winning and can restore its entries anyway.
You need Linux on another drive, it’s a common problem
I swapped fulltime when M$ erased both bootloaders on a dual SSD setup back in 2019
Did have it in another drive in my last computer, windows still did it
Might be time to switch to Linux.
I think so too. Also seeing as my pc probably can’t handle 11 anyway or so it says according to microshit. Amazing how they drive people away just to pander to techbro dipshits.
I’d recommend Kubuntu. Easy to use and a pretty familiar UI for Windows users.
Good suggestion
Kubuntu was too fiddly and overwhelming for new user me. I’d recommend Fedora - it ships the “stock” Linux experience, although it can be unfamiliar in some spots. But hey, we’re not building a Windows replica here.
I have an old laptop at this point which runs on linux (I forgot if its fedora or suse, I haven’t gotten to it in a while). I have another old one which is on win10. I will probably wait till next year then might make into linux laptop. Cause that’s the only way I can breathe life into old laptops.
You can run games on linux now, it is unironically the year(s) of the linux desktop!
Only piece of advice I’d give is not to try to set up dual-boot unless you know what you’re doing. If you overwrite windows and install only linux it will almost certainly succeed, especially if you use a nice user-friendly distro. Dual-boot introduces a lot of complexity and I wouldn’t recommend it unless you really want to learn a lot of stuff about UEFI and bootloaders. It might work but if it doesn’t work you are extremely hosed unless you really know what you’re doing.
I’ve used linux since like 2017 ish. Dual boot at first but later windows fried the hard disk. Then completely linux. At that time I used manjaro. Most games I used to play just worked. Lutris rocks.
To be honest, as someone that does dual-boot, I don’t think it’s as complex as you make it seem. Only caveat is I wouldn’t install both on a single disk, though, Windows will immediately fuck up the UEFI entries for you and that will take complex intervention.
With two drives you can dual boot very easily, though.
I hard disagree. Putting linux on a different disk from windows is even more complicated and distro installers cannot handle it. If you install it on the same disk as windows most distro installers do an okay job.
After reading someone posting advice like yours I tried to install a dual-boot on separate disks using ubuntu. Managed to trash both windows & linux installs, making my computer unbootable. Two years later I committed to installing Arch so had to teach myself all about UEFI and bootloaders and boot partitions and MBR vs. GPT partition tables and and and and… - finally got it working. This isn’t even getting into the notorious footguns where windows sets wake-on-lan/magic packet flags in the NIC volatile memory which the linux network driver can’t understand so your internet connection fails in very mysterious ways. Or the hibernate & fast boot stuff.
Point being there are just way way too many moving parts to ever recommend dual boot to anybody. It is a great way to make somebody have a terrible experience and never try linux again.
I think maybe the Ubuntu installer was just fucked back then or something. I’ve done multiple installs with Calamares in the past two years and had no issues. A laptop and desktop, Intel/Nvidia and AMD/AMD. Installing Linux was never an issue but getting an offline (no Microsoft account) install of Windows 11 to go through was a major pain in the ass.
Maybe I’m just ignorant as to how complex it seems to others, or to the installers of other distros. With Fedora, it honestly was as complex as Boot from USB > Run Installer > Select blank hard drive to install to > Keep clicking next > Done. That was honestly it, no bootloader messing, no UEFI messing, no nothing. Excluding boot/load times it’d be like a 30 seconds video guide.
Maybe the Ubuntu installer really was so bad that it overwrote boot entries by default, but I’m honestly mad if they fucked up that bad. As a power user that does fuck with my boot shit for fun, I don’t think I’ve ever delved as far as it sounds like you have.
However, I certainly agree whatever the case, that just installing Linux will be simpler and easier.
Dual boot works great if they’re on separate drives and Linux is the default boot drive. The grub menu lets me pick my Windows drive as well as my other Linux drive. That said I use Windows like once per month for 1 or 2 things and then run away screaming and crying back to Linux as soon as I’m done.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i don’t think it’s that bad if you use a second drive for linux instead of trying to have both installs on a single drive
Addressed in sister comment. This is authentically terrible advice.
i never had any issues and from cursory googling people talk about a few warts with the process but nothing close to it being terrible
“works for me” -> you are sentenced to answering three linux newbie/debug questions online
If you separately install each OS to a separate drive (no dual booting) then it works fine, there’s no mixing of boot entries or partitions. Just use manual boot override on your motherboard to select the other if you want to switch to the other OS.
Memory is hazy since this was three years ago but I remember windows not handling/liking multiple EFI partitions. Perhaps that has changed, or the disk order matters or something.
Like there’s this article: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/windows-security/cannot-boot-windows-on-primary-hard-disk-uefi
You may also encounter this issue if a second hard drive is added that has a pre-existing EFI partition and bootable OS on it as well. Because of differences in hardware and firmware boot options, it’s unknown which Windows OS will be set as the primary boot disk.
I dual boot Ubuntu with Windows 10 on a second drive since 2-3 years, but I don’t understand why it works then. I only have one EFI partition (whatever that is) though, on my Linux drive, and I can boot from either drive just fine.
One of the solutions to it getting stuck on installing updates is to turn your pc off, wow great software where you have to turn it off in the middle of it to make it work. Brilliant work from a billion dollar company.
I also like how searching your pc for files shows ads, exactly what I wanted.
I like how it always says “Do not turn off your computer” when that happens.
You still update windows 10. I blocked em a while ago. I only do driver updates manually.
not even security updates? malware salivating rn
As a professional IT guy, it’s really not that big of a deal. Unless you’re downloading stupid shit, connecting to random networks, or have a public-facing server, you’re unlikely to be vulnerable to anything the security updates are for.
If you’re doing any of those things, then be prepared for haxxorz anyway.
I’m definitely not an IT professional but malicious files can get on your computer through no fault of one’s own. There was an issue months ago where some Minecraft mod authors got phished and their compromised mods were available on the biggest mod/modpack platform for weeks before it was discovered. It’s not like they were downloading albumname_artistname.exe or anything, it was business as usual
Oh aye, I fully agree with that. But Microsoft security patches will not help with anything like that. They’re pretty much solely protocol exploits and privilege escalations.
No.
probably cause your PC is shit comrade
If you have an ssd run spinrite level 2 scan.
Built a new rig late last year and put w10 on it, no problems on my end. But I did a lot of work to de-bloat it. Had to get a work laptop at the same time and it has W11 - pure dog shit, the OS itself feels like it’s a virus. I’m actually going to install Windows 10 on it for compatability needs.
Every time I try Linux I get lost in all kinds of issues with compatability and it just takes me too much time to learn all the ins and outs of how to fix it. I set up a home media server and NAS on proxmox and it took me months.
For me, Fedora was the one distro that I felt like I didn’t have to fight. It’s super stable, but receives regular updates, and is overall meant to be the “stock” experience - shipping stock GNOME (or KDE, if that’s your thing) by default.
It’s also the distro I’ve had the least amount of compatibility issues with
Thanks for the tip, I’ll test drive it! 🙂
