Combining Fediverse and Wiki’s In follow-up to discussion with Mike Hales, @bashrc and @bhaugen as well as Exploring semantic knowledge base solutions - Fediverse Futures - SocialHub some thoughts / brainstorm of what a wiki-like semantic knowledge base might offer that’d add value that existing tools don’t have. Just brainstorming and trying to stay away from the technical parts. Let’s imagine a federated app based on new concepts. called Semmy … What Semmy offers is a: Social Knowledge F...
  • liwott@nerdica.net
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    3 years ago

    No idea why it didn’t go through the first time, but here’s an interesting related toot:

    ♲ @TerryHancock@mastodon.art:

    You know, a “hellthread reader” sounds like a possible learning project for the Python activitypub module:

    Give it the address for a post anywhere in the thread, and then have it produce a markdown document showing the thread (or the whole tree) as a permanent document.

    Maybe then check it into a wiki for further editing.

    I probably could do that, if I had the time.

    @humanetech

    • smallcirclesOPM
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      3 years ago

      Yes, nice. I also found that the folks at SkoHub did some nice work that can be relevant here. With SkoHub you can define vocabularies and knowlegde concepts in them become Actors on the Fedi that you can then follow. They have a video presentation here:

      https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9cmkKPC3jlo

      • liwott@nerdica.net
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        3 years ago

        I didn’t watch the video but read a couple of thier blog posts, that’s very interesting !

        The social treatment of these SKOS vocabulary words make them very similar to Lemmy communities as far as I understand, the main difference being that they are tied to a categorisation rather than freely defined one by one, and the nature of the posts, that I am turning to next.

        While similar in that they are based around a single web resource, Lemmy’s link posts and Skohub’s resources are fundamentally different wrt the content that accompanies said linked resource.

        • Skohub includes metadata that is useful for searching, definitely relevant to this social knowledge discussion
        • Lemmy allows the author to include a top-level comment and to chose a post title not necessarily the sæme as the article’s. Skohub’s approach definitely comes closer to the idea of social knowledge fabric. I guess Lemmy could go in that direction by turning the link itself into an actor; allowing reposts in a single community; maybe a view of the article where each post appears as a top-level comment. A bit off topic, but I’m noticing while writing it that this vould also be the right way to adress federation with Peertube, and probably other content-oriented fedi platform.

        One feature SkoHub has, that Lemmy does not, is the possibility for posts to be created directly from the browser via the editor extension. This is definitely something that would be appropriate and useful in Lemmy.

        • smallcirclesOPM
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          3 years ago

          Yes, they are indeed different application types, but show interesting things that could be combined in future apps.

          The SocialHub where this post’s link is pointing to is having issues for the past week. It is currently down. It has another topic, also posted to Lemmy here: Howto facilitate the fediverse for its own development?. I imagine both SkoHub-like and Lemmy-like functionality can be used to bring dispersed activities and knowledge closer together while keeping things decentralized at the same time.

          “Community” is a very important concept. Lemmy implements it as groups with membership, but if you look in real life it goes further than that. There are all kinds of meaningful associations / relationships between groups and people. For a long time I’m advocating to create a more native concept of Community on the fediverse, so that we move away from this low-infrastructure kind of network (where we have to tell ‘tech noobs’ about instances and federation and such). In “Community has no Boundary” there’s a meme of some guy explaining fedi to a girl on a party.