Like from what I understand you’re not allowed to touch the workers because then it becomes prostitution. So like. A bunch of boys just get together and sit down to watch some girls dancing naked? And they just kinda grin at each other and say “hey isn’t it awesome when there’s boobs?”

You can’t jerk off so they just go to get boners with their buddies? You can do that at home. You can just watch porn with the fellas or have a circlejerk.

I’ve never understood why it’s seen as a straight masculine thing to go to a place where the only thing you can do is get horny with other men.

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    Because the solution to that is to be one specific sex worker’s Saviour, “got her to quit” and “like to think i had some kind of positive effect on her life”. What if, instead of “defending capitalism” or whatever you accuse me of, I just think you attitude toward sex workers is poor? What you did does nothing about the root cause of the problem and doesn’t advance the rights of sex workers in any way, it seems like you were just focused on this one woman.

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        How the fuck is it the fault of those who have to turn to sex work for survival that they are exploited? Fuck off with that. Do all workers under capitalism simply need to “not allow themselves to be exploited”?

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            Look back at your reply. You said there’s no way to solve the root problem other than for sex workers not to engage. Why is this situation different in this respect from any other work under capitalism? Huge amounts of misogyny are involved, but it’s also like any other work under capitalism.

            Also thank you for being kind, considerate and polite to me with all of this.

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                Is that actually how you think about capitalism, that it’s a matter of people simply needing to not allow themselves to get exploited? I’m being genuine here, that’s a pretty big misunderstanding of how capitalism even works. None of us can just opt-out of capitalisy exploitation. When I was working my cleaning job for some corp, I was being exploited and selling my labour. Sex workers are too.

                I don’t think I attacked your character anywhere, other than implying that just wanting your gf to stop doing sex work is a bit swerfy, hence “not a swerf, but”.

                If I’ve made any wrong assumptions, I want to know, preferably without so much swearing and insulting me, please.

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                    You said “I’m not a swerf, but”. You know the phrase “I’m not racist, but”? And unsurprisingly, you followed it up with a story about stopping this woman from doing sex work, “think I made a positive impact in her life”, I don’t think it’s a leap to say ‘yikes’ about that.

                    What are they supposed to do, just not work forever? Permanent strike? People under capitalism unfortunately need money to live, and for the majority of people that means work. Strikes do not stop exploitation, all work under capitalism is exploitative, all bosses under capitalism are stealing surplus value. Having to work as a pre-requisite for housing is exploitation.

                    Beyond that though, do you think everyone should either strike right this instant until an Employee’s Assembly runs every company? Like western governments won’t send in strike breakers? and that the alternative is to just be homeless because then your labour isn’t being exploited??? I think that’s absurd. I got fired last month, fwiw.

                    also please stop swearing at me.