What the hell?

Edit - Quoting @Allero@lemmy.today

Wikipedia is not currently banned in Russia. But the Russian branch of Wikimedia as an organization is. Also, pretty much nobody in Russia uses Ruwiki, everyone keeps using Wikipedia.

That’s all not to say it isn’t a troubling development, though. But Russians are more likely to access Wikipedia through VPN than to rely on Ruwiki. The game’s not lost.

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    Doesn’t seem to be banned by my ISP.

    Anyway, Russian Wikipedia clones to steal budget money are old news.

    There even is such a meme as “encyclong”, that’s what the Wikipedia article for vikings turned into after one such cloning with replacing wiki- (no difference between V and W in Russian) with encyclo- .

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      Really? Good to hear it’s just an ineffective censorship attempt then.

      There even is such a meme as “encyclong”, that’s what the Wikipedia article for vikings turned into after one such cloning with replacing wiki- (no difference between V and W in Russian) with encyclo- .

      Damn that’s funny.

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        I don’t think there was an attempt, “bans original” is a hallucination by the author.

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          Reading the article it sounds like they’re trying

          Real Russian Wikipedia editors used to refer to the real Wikipedia as Ruwiki; the new one is called Ruviki, has “ruwiki” in its url

          Or at least this part does.

          edit - Oh damn. Sorry, I misread your comment.

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    Huh? Wikipedia isn’t banned in Russia yet. Though I do expect them to take steps towards it.

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      Yeah. Someone else corrected that part earlier. It’s not a good headline, but I didn’t want to change it.

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          It’s not in the rules of the community but some places are not okay with changing headlines. So I left it how it was.

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            7 months ago

            Not the person you replied to- you could consider adding a correction or [sic] or something while still including the original headline unedited

            Hope you have a good day :)

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              You could also replace the text body of the post with an explanation. It currently just says “what the hell?” which isn’t helpful

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              I ended up adding an edit to the title. It’s probably too late now but I think it should at least help the people that find the post later. I didn’t know we could edit post titles here. I thought it was like reddit.

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      7 months ago

      Nope. The vandalism is by the troll farms and a weapon of the quiet information war waging against reality.

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    Of course, all you need to do is run a differential between Wikipedia and this thing to find exactly what the government is trying to censor. Idiots.

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      That would be a cool project. You’d basically see everything the Russian regime doesn’t want you to see, i.e. all the interesting bits.

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      Russian Wikipedians will be quick to demand reliable sources for any text copied over. And they’ll probably have bots to check if anything is copied over without attribution. In the end it’ll probably be a trickle of usable information, like all the other wikis.

      The new site just won’t keep up and degrade quickly, even by their own standards.

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      Why do you think that Russia would care to include the edits from the original Wikipedia ?

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    Wikipedia is not currently banned in Russia.

    But the Russian branch of Wikimedia as an organization is.

    Also, pretty much nobody in Russia uses Ruwiki, everyone keeps using Wikipedia.

    That’s all not to say it isn’t a troubling development, though. But Russians are more likely to access Wikipedia through VPN than to rely on Ruwiki. The game’s not lost.

    Edit: Thank you OP for striving for the best accuracy!

      • 𝓔𝓶𝓶𝓲𝓮@lemm.ee
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        I guess they did it only locally. Though it doesn’t exactly fit the definition even that way. And why would it be ironic?

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          'Cos that tactic is Microsoft™.

          Then again the Russian Federation is a fascist state run by oligarchs, so not that much different from the fascist state run by billionaire CEOs that the US is…

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            Seriously? Ehh…

            Of course Russia is facist though, what else would it be? Maybe you got it wrong with a historic non existing failed country created by absolute psychopaths?

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    Must be nice, in China we only have the poorly formatted, lack-of-citation garbage that is Baidu Baike https://baike.baidu.com/ .

    The “sorting algorithm” article: https://baike.baidu.com/item/排序算法/5399605 only have 3 citations: none of which are the original papers and none of which have any links. I tried searching these “citations” and found absolutely nothing…

    Similarly, the article for “Amsterdam” contains almost no citation beyond the first paragraph https://baike.baidu.com/item/阿姆斯特丹/814

    Just imagine how bad it would be for more obscure concepts.

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    From the top of the page:

    Ruviki 2.0 is in beta | Report bugs

    Trying to pass this clone off as an “update” to actual Wikipedia lol

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      More Putin pulling from the neoconservative playbook.

      The hyper-chauvanist white nationalism that became politically mainstream after the collapse of the USSR was as much a creature of American right-wing propaganda in Russia as it was a native beast.

      Just like how Henry Ford swamped Germany with antisemitic rhetoric by way of his “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” during the 1910s, conservative mass media blanketed Eastern Europe and Russia during the 90s/00s.

      And oh hey look. History repeats itself.