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For some numbers:
One graph even has California’s animal feed water usage so large it actually goes off the chart at 15.2 million acre-feet of water (it is distorted to make it fit as it notes). For some comparison, the blue water usage of animal feed is larger than all of almonds water usage of ~2 million acre-feet of water
https://pacinst.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/ca_ftprint_full_report3.pdf#page=25
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If the image isn’t loading for you, here’s a direct link: https://i.imgur.com/EjVps9Z.png
EDIT 2:
Also worth noting is that per liter, dairy milk requires 628.2 L of freshwater vs almond milk requiring 371.46 L of freshwater. And if you use something like oat milk instead that gets you to 48.24 L
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Incredibly based, fuck the dairy industry.
It undeniably does, but what would be interesting is a comparison of how much water is needed per liter of milk and various substitutes.
Per liter, dairy milk requires 628.2 L of freshwater vs almond milk requiring 371.46 L of freshwater. And if you use something like oat milk instead that gets you to 48.24 L
@usernamesAreTricky @vegivamp Oat milk is 🔥 .
For sure, oat milk is personally my favorite too
Same and this is making me even happier to be drinking it.
Love using oat milk for porridge. Double oat, so oaty.
I’ve switched entirely to oat milk. I don’t understand how it’s so creamy.
Of all the non-dairy milks I’ve tried, oat is the most palatable to me. Still distinctly prefer cow, though. But then i grew up on the fresh stuff, not the watery crap from the supermarket.
And to say that I’ve now switched almost entirely to half because the boy wants to diet. I flat out refuse to buy skim, though, that’s just coloured water.
I make my own oat milk. Costs literal cents to make and you can modify it for you tastes
I suppose I should have guessed how much more resource-intensive dairy milk is just because it involves animals, but holy crap.
Soy milk gang!
Drinking coffee with soy milk in it right now.
I still like Soy milk the best. It’s tried and true, and uses less water than Oat. Sadly, the emissions are a bit higher…
But a benefit is that in making soy milk, you have the setup to make tofu, which is lovely as well.
Cool thing is you can have different plant milks for different things. I like oat milk in flat coffee, but prefer soy when the ‘milk’ is frothed.
Meme with a credible source? This is they way (and thank you)!
So true. And as a sidenote, it’s so pathetic when the (usual suspects) bust out with their tired whataboutisms and dont put just the tiniest bit of effort into researching it, even a little, to see if it’s true. Heaven forbid they might have to actually change their stances under the constant flow of contradictory evidence to the bullshittery they peddle.
If I promise to switch to oat milk, can I keep the cheese?
I mean any switch is doing something. People who try to switch everything completely all at once end up failing a lot because it’s overwhelming.
There are some good almond and cashew cheeses though, and now they can make non animal whey that is chemically equivalent to dairy whey… So identical cheese is coming. They already have identical non animal cream cheese and ice cream
yeah I’m not sure what I can do about milk/cheese. We’ve actually been mostly beef & pork free (from grocery) for several years, replacing with poultry, beans, and some fish.
but milk? man that’s tough. we have kids, and we go through a lot of milk. oat milk would be expensive as a 1:1 replacer. small steps!
If you don’t do any meatless meals I highly recommend it for saving money. Our grocery bill would be insane right now if we ate as much meat as we used to. My go to is stir fry with an egg on top or a soup/stew. Dont even miss the meat cause it’s so flavorful even without it
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You need really a lot of milk to make cheese…
Animal feed is a huge category, vs. almonds. Almonds registering on that scale is what’s so shocking about it.
Edit: Not that it isn’t wasteful, if you need extra feed besides grazing, you’re in trouble ecologically.
The water usage per liter of dairy milk is also higher. Per liter, dairy milk requires 628.2 L of freshwater vs almond milk requiring 371.46 L of freshwater. And if you use something like oat milk instead that gets you to 48.24 L.
https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impact-milks
Keep in mind here that 80% of the entire world’s almonds are grown in California, so it’s not surprising its a decent large user by size. Even despite that, just the mostly US demand for animal feed dwarfs water usage in California
This is the mode important metric, thanks for including it
Hi, it’s me, the average person, How is this a problem?
Record droughts
The end of the entire human race due to climate change
Before that, climate change destroying your house or access to food
Animal feed is one of the main users of water of the colorado river which is drying up. Large amounts of people depend on that river for their drinking water
Correspondingly, our hydrologic modelling reveals that cattle-feed irrigation is the leading driver of flow depletion in one-third of all western US sub-watersheds; cattle-feed irrigation accounts for an average of 75% of all consumptive use in these 369 sub-watersheds. During drought years (that is, the driest 10% of years), more than one-quarter of all rivers in the western US are depleted by more than 75% during summer months (Fig. 2 and Supplementary Fig. 2) and cattle-feed irrigation is the largest water use in more than half of these heavily depleted rivers
https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1064&context=wffdocs
in terms of things like emissions, it’s important to reduce meat and dairy consumption to meet climate goals as well
To have any hope of meeting the central goal of the Paris Agreement, which is to limit global warming to 2°C or less, our carbon emissions must be reduced considerably, including those coming from agriculture. Clark et al. show that even if fossil fuel emissions were eliminated immediately, emissions from the global food system alone would make it impossible to limit warming to 1.5°C and difficult even to realize the 2°C target. Thus, major changes in how food is produced are needed if we want to meet the goals of the Paris Agreement.
(emphasis mine)
The Colorado river that runs from Colorado through Utah, Arizona, Nevada, and California (and lets not forget Mexico as well) is basically almost dry. It’s the life blood river for large swaths of area in those states. If it goes dry, beyond all of the SoCal farms not being able to get water, many millions of people will not be able to get drinking water.
This isn’t a meme
Here’s a direct link to the image if it isn’t loading for you
@usernamesAreTricky not a meme
@usernamesAreTricky if this image was included in the OP it didn’t show on my instance.
Hmm I’ve had other people say they couldn’t see my posts when I used imgur though I think usually people can see that there was an image (just that it didn’t load). Maybe will stop using imgur for post then I suppose
The image doesn’t preview, on kbin.social, for me. But clicking the title when in the comments will take me to the imgur page. Kind of inconvenient, but ultimately accessible.
@Catsrules glad to hear it. All the other posts in this forum show the embedded image, not sure why this one didn’t. I’ll file an issue on the github.com/friendica/friendica
There is an image here. If it’s not showing up for you here’s the direct link https://i.imgur.com/EjVps9Z.png (I also put that in an edit in the body as well)
https://i.imgflip.com/7qa5kj.jpg
I’m kidding. I was being silly about the commenter’s situation and now I can’t stop. The devs need to roll out saltwater cows in 2024. I’ll submit a request.
Memes about Reddit, the Titanic sub, and other common things to lampshade all take up a humorous political stance. This is a very “Keep racial politics out of my X-Men” moment.
