• TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works
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      8 months ago

      I would personally be happier with 20 something year old presidential candidates over the current trend of the battling octogenarians. At least the 20 something year old politicians would have to live a long time with the ramifications of their decisions and actions.

      Its still not ideal, but I would take it over these incredibly out of touch seniors. They should be out enjoying their retirement and last days on Earth, anyways.

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      8 months ago

      The majority of presidents have been under 60. Obama, Clinton, Bush 2, Jimmy Carter, JFK, both Roosevelts…

      Only Trump and Biden have been over 70. Regan missed it by like 20 days.

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        8 months ago

        only one of those have been recent. hillary might’ve been younger but we all know how that went lol. bush 2 electric boogaloo would’ve been pretty close though.

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          8 months ago

          What is recent? W. Bush was four presidents ago, Clinton was only five presidents ago. We’re only on our 46th president since Washington was inaugurated in 1789, 235 years ago. When you go through presidents that slowly, it’s easy to have your sample thrown off if you just include a couple of decades.

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            8 months ago

            Yeah I felt like including anyone older than the 1900’s was cheating considering people back then died in their 60’s from having bad teeth back then, let alone bloodletting.

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            8 months ago

            recent as in, 10-20 years. Bush technically counts. Maybe. I didn’t do the math.

            Either way my point here was that it’s absurd that our candidacy choices are between two elderly men.

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              8 months ago

              Just to explain my math point a bit more, let’s take the definition of recent by decade, where all presidents serving within those decades count:

              • 1 decade (2014): 3
              • 2 decades (2004): 4
              • 3 decades (1994): 5
              • 4 decades (1984): 7
              • 5 decades (1974): 10
              • 6 decades (1964): 11
              • 7 decades (1955): 13
              • 8 decades (1945): 15

              Even going back fairly far, we still have a pretty small sample size to draw conclusions for presidents specifically.

              I agree with you on the age issue as a broader problem. There we have a solid sample. We’ve become a gerontocracy at the federal level especially, with the older generations holding onto power far past when they should have moved aside to allow in new people and fresh ideas. People in their 80’s and 90’s holding on to seats clogs the pipelines so that everyone else is prevented from moving up.

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                8 months ago

                every so often i remember that there are still probably silent generation members in the government, and that statistically, the vast majority is gen x or older, broadly across the government.

                It really makes you think.