It’s a reflection of our society. Israel’s government saying ISIS tier fundie shit about killing Palestinians (and actually doing it) is somehow considered normal because MSM said so. Any dissident or that calls out their war-crimes is “offensive and controversial”.
We have to combat Genocide with a silver tongue. It’s insanity.
Anyone who has read my comments knows I don’t approve of anything Israel has been doing, at least in my lifetime, and I’ve often compared their treatment of the Palestinians to the ghetto-ization of Jews in 1939.
Alright, so I’ve got to push back on this. You “compared their treatment of the Palestinians to the ghetto-ization of Jews in 1939”, which is explicitly an appeal to Nazi imagery. However, when someone uses a portmanteau to also say they do Nazi-like things that’s too far? How is it OK to say they’re like nazis when you do it, but not ok to say they’re like nazis when this other person does it? Sure, they could have elaborated, but I don’t think that’s required at the moment.
Just FYI, they referred to a nation('s government), not a people. Also, saying that they are behaving like nazis, how you did it, is also a slur. A slur is “an insulting or disparaging remark or innuendo”, and it doesn’t have to just be a one word thing.
I assume it’d be fine to call the Nazis Nazis, right? They represented the people of Germany, just as Israel represents the people of Israel. It isn’t calling the German people anything, but it is pointing out a factual thing about the government.
That comment didn’t say anything about Jews or anything else. It used a portmanteau to accuse the nation of Israel of doing the same thing Nazis did, which is literally what you did. A slur is a slur. Either it’s sometimes OK, or it isn’t ever. Your comment should also be removed if it’s never acceptable, but we both know it is sometimes acceptable if it’s disparaging by enlightening facts. If the truth hurts, that’s on them. It’s not anti-semitic or whatever to critique Israel.
Since when is it an insult to call people what they are? They are doing the nearly the same thing - if not the exact same thing.
Israel is doing:
Stealing land
Ethnic cleansing
Genocide
Calling Palestinians rats, animals and more cruel things
Wanting to erase the entire Palestinian race
Lying to the world
They think they are “superior” than Palestinian people
They think and say that Palestinian people are, they “inferior” race
Apartheid
Sent Palestinian people jail/ prison for no reason (even kids)
Beat Palestinian people for no reason or provoke to “get a reason”
Does these things ring a bell? I’m sure it does because the Nazis were doing the same thing.
There’s an image which shows the very similarities between Nazis and Israel government.
Certainly, I’m not allowed to show it because you will delete it.
No, making and enforcing rules arbitrarily which was the reason many of us left reddit.
Although tbf I think these two communities balance each other out because the mods on lemmy.ml have their own set of stupid and arbitrary rules enforcement.
“Nazisrael” is clever, but crossing a line. Removed.
Israel calls Khamaaas Nazi’s on live TV but calling the people doing literal Genocide to create an ethnostate “Nazi’s” is too far?
If anything this has been the most apt period of time in the last 75 years to invoke Godwins law.
Be semi-happy, at least its shows what kind of people the mods are. They approve Israeli’s hateful Shit but don’t approve the opposite.
Says much more about the mods themselves than about the other people.
It’s a reflection of our society. Israel’s government saying ISIS tier fundie shit about killing Palestinians (and actually doing it) is somehow considered normal because MSM said so. Any dissident or that calls out their war-crimes is “offensive and controversial”.
We have to combat Genocide with a silver tongue. It’s insanity.
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Anyone who has read my comments knows I don’t approve of anything Israel has been doing, at least in my lifetime, and I’ve often compared their treatment of the Palestinians to the ghetto-ization of Jews in 1939.
https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/nazi-germany-and-establishment-ghettos
But as a group we do not allow slurs, even inventive new ones.
Feel free to criticize them, but not with slurs.
Alright, so I’ve got to push back on this. You “compared their treatment of the Palestinians to the ghetto-ization of Jews in 1939”, which is explicitly an appeal to Nazi imagery. However, when someone uses a portmanteau to also say they do Nazi-like things that’s too far? How is it OK to say they’re like nazis when you do it, but not ok to say they’re like nazis when this other person does it? Sure, they could have elaborated, but I don’t think that’s required at the moment.
Referring to a people as a slur is over the line, yes.
Fucking shitstain power tripping mod, you know it didn’t cross any lines and just couldn’t stand to see someone post freely.
No, we don’t allow slurs, or abusive usernames either.
You used it yourself.
Just FYI, they referred to a nation('s government), not a people. Also, saying that they are behaving like nazis, how you did it, is also a slur. A slur is “an insulting or disparaging remark or innuendo”, and it doesn’t have to just be a one word thing.
I assume it’d be fine to call the Nazis Nazis, right? They represented the people of Germany, just as Israel represents the people of Israel. It isn’t calling the German people anything, but it is pointing out a factual thing about the government.
That comment didn’t say anything about Jews or anything else. It used a portmanteau to accuse the nation of Israel of doing the same thing Nazis did, which is literally what you did. A slur is a slur. Either it’s sometimes OK, or it isn’t ever. Your comment should also be removed if it’s never acceptable, but we both know it is sometimes acceptable if it’s disparaging by enlightening facts. If the truth hurts, that’s on them. It’s not anti-semitic or whatever to critique Israel.
Since when is it an insult to call people what they are? They are doing the nearly the same thing - if not the exact same thing.
Israel is doing:
Does these things ring a bell? I’m sure it does because the Nazis were doing the same thing.
There’s an image which shows the very similarities between Nazis and Israel government. Certainly, I’m not allowed to show it because you will delete it.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
Israel calls Khamaaas Nazi’s
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
You know we can see this, right?
Yup, being clear as to why it was removed.
Transparency!
https://youtube.com/shorts/gMRCmXiRC-k
I mean I was thinking more https://youtu.be/SYkbqzWVHZI
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://piped.video/SYkbqzWVHZI
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://piped.video/shorts/gMRCmXiRC-k
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
This is why people move to !worldnews@lemmy.ml
You called?
Enforcing rules? Pretty sure they do that there too…
No, making and enforcing rules arbitrarily which was the reason many of us left reddit.
Although tbf I think these two communities balance each other out because the mods on lemmy.ml have their own set of stupid and arbitrary rules enforcement.
It’s not arbitrary. Everything is outlined in the sidebar, not that the offenders ever actually READ the sidebar. But it is there.
What do we do if moderation fail us?
Start a different instance or community.
That’s the glory of federation, baby!
Sure would be nice instead of being forced to abandon a growing space, that the admins actually took their job of curbing activist mods.
But they never will, ever, anywhere.
Fuck mods, fuck admins, they are all power tripping assholes.
I mean, some of them are good sometimes.
It just depends. I think the answer is to always have a way out. That way we’re not beholden to any single group like we were with redshit.
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