Hi, it might be against what most people feel and think right now but I feel that it needs to be said.
I come from rational place even though I currently hate reddit and removed it completely from my devices, but I’m not going to delete my posts or nuke my comments.
Like it or not Reddit is still a huge database for a lot of solutions and great posts and discussions about opinions, reviews, how-to and many many more. Lemmy will take time to keep the pace and be filled with these types of content. And it might might take years to get to it (I really hope it will).
Deleting and nuking posts and comments are only distroy what we and the entire reddit community built over the years and it will be a huge loss for all of us.
If you ask me, the best way to say ‘fuck you’ to reddit, is keep all the old Content there, try to migrate as much as we can here and from now on build this content here. When/if Lemmy be mature enough we can go back and fuck everything up on reddit.
This is my 2 cents.
By all means, you do you. But here is how I see it.
- Reddit is now all out to get money. I don’t want them to use my content to get it. I was fine going so when they provided a service, but now that I don’t like their terms, my content will be gone.
- There is next to no information I provided that is unique. If I found a solution, it’s only because I founded it elsewhere. I am not destroying information.
- For that which is unique, it is merely my opinion, and see point 1.
I wrote it, it’s my content and I will delete it if I want to. The value and knowledge there deposited comes not from the text itself, but from who I am as a person, my years of study and experience. Reddit doesn’t own either, nor has any right to profit from my labor. If anyone wants anything from me they can ask me directly elsewhere. Whatever is worth preserving for posterity’s sake I will systematize and publish in books. Whatever of value is worth sharing and distributing I will do so out of my own volition, on the platforms of my choosing and under the conditions I agree upon. Fuck Spez.
i still get the point what OP wants to say but i have mostly memes so i dont really think about it. Even if you “delete” your stuff it gets only marked as “removed”. i think there where some cases where reddit did want the deleted stuff back and reverted it. when i get it correctly the CEO did edit some comments but could revert that back too. Those cases make me feel like that the stuff i post is not mine anymore, but i will try the best i can to make reddit not usable, even if it means being a complete asshole.
i wrote that elsewhre a few minutes ago:
it is better to change the comments to nonsense than to delete it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/146lloj/protip_if_you_replace_the_content_of_your/“: if you replace the content of your posts/comments with nonsense, you’ll make Reddit Inc. (including its CEO) lose money.”
"There’s a good chance that those API price changes were motivated by large businesses using Reddit to train their large language models (LLMs) with. Stuff like GPT-3, Google’s BERT, Facebook’s Galactica, stuff like this. In other words, your content will be used to train bots. (It is, already.)
Those models can be “poisoned” with random, machine generated nonsense. Poisoned data is worse than useless: it makes the model worse. So for each person replacing their Reddit content with nonsense, those businesses will be willing to pay Reddit Inc. less and less for API access."
"Here is a mini-tutorial on how to do this. It’s for desktop users but you’ll likely be able to do the same from a phone browser.
- Open Zompist’s gen. Take off the line saying “ki|či”, and click “Generate”. You’ll get some random babble like “Bepe topioi kabi brete i kropra”, copy it somewhere.
- Open your Reddit profile and drag the button of Power Delete Suite to it.
- [Optional] Check the box saying “prepare local backup of items”, if you want to save your content elsewhere.
- Uncheck “remove comments”. You want to replace them with babble, not remove them.
- [Optional] uncheck “remove posts”. It depends if you post mostly self posts or if you post links/pics. Use your reasoning.
- Check “Edit comments / self posts”. It should open an input box for text; place the babble from Zompist’s gen there. Then click “process”.
- Just wait!
- [Optional] Click to download the backup of the items.
If you don’t like Zompist’s gen and/or Power Delete Suite, you can use any generator and/or Reddit mass edition tool of your choice."
and yes, i am somewhat still on reddit but i think i do more against them when my app does not work anymore (to spread lemmy or information) i will follow this process
Yeah, my plan was to edit every single one of my comments to random gibberish right after a mass download or scrape of my account. Certainly it states in the TOS that reddit owns the data once you upload it, but that doesn’t mean I have to make it easy for them.
You are more than entitled to do so, no one suggested otherwiae, nor that the text is more important than the person.
No one will ask you if you know how to fix the fridge if you delete your guide because no one will know you know how. Reddit already lost a lot because they lost a lot of content creator they will lose much more when more and more content will be created here. But for the time being there are a lot of treasures stored in reddit and in my opinion is ashame to destroy along with reddit when you can sink it without the sinking the treasure with it.
And yeah, fuck Spez
You, you are suggesting that somehow I have some sort of obligation to the common good to not do what I want with my text, that I wrote. Then creating a false dichotomy whereas knowledge will be lost if erased from Reddit. This is false. Knowledge has existed and found distribution media for millennia without Reddit. This is not the burning of the library of Alexandria. This is a repository of memes, flame wars and awkward conversations. Reddit’s position as a source for knowledge is the result of the effort of thousands of volunteers who sifted and curated the garbage and dribble of a million monkeys with typewriters. But maybe just scroll a bit past search results and you’ll find just as good sources like Wikipedia, StackOverflow, and you know? books. 99% of what Reddit comments did was regurgitate knowledge that could be found elsewhere if you know how to read something other than memes and think for yourself for a few minutes.
I respect your two cents and politely disagree.
I’m looking at a CEO who somehow thinks my content is his to profit off of, and I decide that I won’t be a part of it. It most definitely will hurt users, yes. A lot of my posts were top results in Google for my work field, and that knowledge is lost because I edited and then removed all my posts and comments.
But it is the only course of action available to me, if I want to keep in charge of my content, and who gets to monetize it.
The point is to put your uniquely provided information somewhere else, like Lemmy. Google will figure out how to prioritize this information eventually. Delete it from reddit so that it’s no longer the internet’s repository of information.
Deleting and nuking posts and comments are only distroy what we and the entire reddit community built over the years and it will be a huge loss for all of us.
Reddit has already been destroyed by the actions taking place currently by spez and the site admins. There is no saving it anymore, not in any way that matters.
You’re right, it is a huge loss but don’t put that blame on the users deleting comments, that blame lies squarely on Reddit. The way I see it they don’t deserve the content we have provided them and the right thing to do is rebuild that information elsewhere. Here on the fediverse for example.
To keep your content on Reddit is to encourage web traffic to Reddit, which makes them money.
You’re not the first person I’ve seen make this argument, and it’s definitely a difficult situation.
End of the day though, this line of argument essentially allows Reddit to hold us hostage. While it is unfortunate that this will be in some ways harmful to the internet as a whole, it’s ultimately our content, and we have the right to remove it if we wish.
That said, I do think that, if anyone has a history of being particularly helpful on Reddit, they should consider backing up their comments, and possibly reposting the relevant information to a blog or something similar, or maybe even here on Lemmy.
Guess it depends what you’ve been doing. I only make memes, shitposts and stupid comments, so I don’t think that makes a difference either way.
However, by mass-editing their own comments, one can fill up a good chunk of Reddit with some specific message. So that’s a good argument for.
It’s not Reddits data and they want to sell it to train AI models so to them we’re not users, or communities, we’re just data sets that they alone will reap the benefits of.
Delete the fucking lot. Start again but this time we own our data.
Maybe a happy medium is to take you best/most popular posts and repost it in here under a similar community, then edit your Reddit post to point to Lemmy for additional info…
This is a much better answer.
Reddit’s only real value is the contribution of users. Reddit got so big because it had so many users posting their information. It will continue to be big so long as it’s the place where you can find answers to nearly anything.
Move the content, and you’ll move the value. That’s the only way most people will ever change what site they browse while pooping
I really really like this answer. I’ve been torn on rewriting my comments & deleting the account because I have some useful information, but I absolutely do NOT want reddit profiting from OUR knowledge and help for people anymore. It’s entire success is built on the people helping other people
Though for some things I’m torn on reposting to kbin because they haven’t been updated in a while or might not be accurate anymore
For example, I wrote a MASSIVE “returning / new player guide” for Vindictus, which is a very old MMO with a small community. It has been super helpful for a lot of people in the past, but as you know, MMOs update and change a lot so it’s definitely out of date, but not entirely. Even if I gave the raw message and all of it’s images to someone else to re-write the post, the community is so small and it would be hard to find someone who would even care. So it would be weird to just repost a partially outdated guide. Know what I mean?
Some other examples are niche within other games. So like for the game Control, I posted a guide on how to fix a bug for x thing. Or for Outriders, I posted a farming method for a resource or something
Do you have any advice for me?
Also, do you or does anyone else here know of a way that I can back up all of my comments and posts locally, like to a txt or some other text source?
Well I linked to one of my Lemmy posts from Reddit and a short while later (a few hours at most) I am no longer able to access that account. Not sure what kind of ban/restriction was put in place, I don’t think I was shadowbanned because I can still see my posts/comments.
Edit: I am able to log in via browser, just can’t use my preferred 3rd party app to login with that account anymore. Other accounts still work fine.
So if you are serious, I’d pick a few really good guides that are still relevant and maybe include a brief header in Lemmy explaining the reason for the re-post/content. Then work fast to edit those posts with the links, or else get creative with ways to obfuscate that you’re linking to Lemmy. You’ll probably just need something that would fool a bot doing a quick text search for anything linking to Lemmy directly. For now at least.
I have seen that there are ways to backup your comments/posts, but I don’t have any links to these tools off the top of my head. You’ll want to do it before API access is cut off though.
It’s fine to delete and rebuild.
As long as old comments are there people will land there. After Google indexes the deletion, people will land on Lemmy, and we can engage in providing up-to-date solutions.
I’ve been thinking about what to do with my Reddit account. I’m leaning towards leaving up my comments (for reasons you stated), but adding a disclaimer with a link to Lemmy.
That way, if anyone does still find my posts useful or entertaining, they know where to go for more.That’s actually a great idea!
I’m thinking of saving all of my comments on my own webserver and then deleting them That way they are at least not gone forever.
Fwiw I’ve definitely not contributed anything of note on reddit (low effort 2-sentence hot takes) so I don’t think it matters to me
What I have done is mass edit all my comments to Lemmy equivalents of subs I used to frequent, hopefully that’s of more use than the dross I used to leave on there (and will leave on here for that matter lmao)
Sorry, but I nuked my main account and my author account because there were comments and posts that reddit could slap ads on and profit from.
Anyone that wanted that content can damn well wait for me to repost it eventually. Fuck reddit, fuck spez lol.
Agree with OP.
I’ve posted original content on subreddits meant for people with mental disorders. I also helped people find solutions for software-related problems. I don’t feel that screwing them over to make a statement to Reddit’s CEO is the right way to go.
I plan to delete my Reddit account and avoid visiting the site as much as I can. If enough people do the same thing and use alternatives instead, that’s enough of a statement to me.
You can post the comment elsewhere, such as a similar community here, blog posts on something like Medium, etc… Then use PowerDeleteSuite to mass edit your comments to point to the new home.
That’s what I’m going to do I think. I understand the pain from removing comments that have and would have helped people, but reddit will continue to profit off of that information, which they absolutely do not fucking deserve. Those people that were helped, have already been helped. New users seeking information will have to search elsewhere
Something has to be done to the existing data in order to get more people away from the platform, and there is an absolute plethora of information so I don’t even think the people doing this will have a large enough impact as we’d like (though, I could be wrong in estimating how many people are rewriting their comments). At least, future content creators have already moved away so a lot of “new” information shared on reddit will be on the decline, or less of an incline
If I’ve written any guides or posts that are helpful, I will repost it over here and edit the original post on reddit to remove the content and redirect them here which will also inform more people about the fediverse. The people who needed the help have already seen it, and anyone else seeking the information will hopefully be pulled away from reddit and to a better platform. There -has- to be a point at which people move away from reddit for information, so that other places like kbin can grow into a more suitable replacement with just as much, and eventually, more knowledge
Yeah, much of my comments/posts were technical support stuff for specific software vendor subreddits. I’ve created accounts on three different official forums hosted by these vendors this week. They’re not nearly as widely used as reddit now, but hopefully as the useful content moves, so will the people that need it.
