Enough shit about reddit. Get back to work folk. Tell me a phone with no bloatware at all, or no app pre-installed at all.
Fresh lineageos install on any phone.
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I just got a Pixel 7 Pro, there only thing it came programmed with were the basic Google apps.
Stock Android has so many additional components (assistant for example) compared with GrapheneOS.
Still, compared to the Samsung phones I’ve had in the past, there’s very little bloat. It was literally just like 8 Google apps and that was all.
Yes true, and for some these software is unnecessary baggage and for others absolutely important features.
Snag any Pixel that’s affordable to you and slap GrapheneOS (or Lineage, whichever) and you’re gold.
Oneplus 5T unlocked, wiped and running LineageOS 20, no Gapps.
Fite me
True. Its performance and battery usage are amazing! I tried that a few weeks ago with my spare phone (OnePlus 5T).
Mine only ever booted OxygenOS but the one time I it needed to enable Developer Options and ADB. Totally skipped the out-of-box setup, too.
Those were simpler days.
At this point, I’m so used to using AOSP-based custom ROMs like EvolutionX, ArrowOS, crDroid, etc, even if the stock ROM is good.
I always unlock the bootloader after a week or two from the day I purchase a new phone; just for the sake of trying the stock ROM a little before I jump into custom ROMs ship.
Google Pixel with GrapheneOS or CalyxOS.
I’m not giving Google any money.
How do you feel about buying used or refurbished? Genuinely curious since I often see people with this stance
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Pixel as many have suggested. In addition to being able to take any of the popular ROMs, most of the apps on the stock ROM can be disabled.
For example:
Sony Xperia 1 and 5 series phones. They actually do have some bloatware but it’s not egregious at all.
Yup this is the way, the only bloat are preinstalled apps that can be disabled, the OS itself is extremely clean
Pixel 6 w GrapheneOS is what I use, its lovely
How is the 6? I have heard terrible things about it having a lot of hardware defects.
Some of the Nokia lineup and many of the xiaomi phones are able to install custom roms very easily
love my G50 dropped it in the toilet and she still goes hard
Any Motorola phone with unlockable bootloader (most if not all), with official LineageOS support. You get a very very basic set of base apps meant for functions like the camera, calculator, music, gallery, files; apps that effrctively are used by other apps for core functions.
Fairphone 4
PostmarketOS on a Pinephone, because everything after Android KitKat is bloat
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It depends what you mean by bloat and apps. Is the calculator bloat? What about the phone dialer? In Android, even the keyboard is a separate app.
Even Lineage has “bloat” - do you need a SIM ToolKit app? Perhaps if your provider still uses USSD for network operations.
If you want something slimmed down to the minimum, you’ll have to build it yourself. Because no one else knows what you need.
I would not consider those essential tools to be “bloat”. In fact; those applications were a part of stock AOSP android at one time.
While it’s true that modern versions of AOSP are much more modularized; that doesn’t make them “Bloat”.
In general; the typically accepted definition of “Bloatware” apps is as follows:
Unnecessary Third-Party Apps that are a part of a(n) (Yes; all of these are required to be true about the app in question)
- Pre-Installed (Without user choice or input)
- Out of Box Experience (Integrated into the STOCK ROM or VENDOR PARTITION (AKA installed by service provider)
- Are Unwanted and Uninstallable apps that has a front-end or launcher icon
- are NOT LIBRARIES, EXTENSIONS or KERNEL MODULES (Not providing services to other apps)
- NOT PROVIDING ANY SYSTEM CRITICAL SERVICES such as Networking or interfacing with the cellular modem(s) or Service Provider(s) systems to ensure functionality, activation, or network services
Unfortunately; there will always be certain functions embedded into system libraries and other blobs, that you cannot live without, that happen to be doing something you may not agree with. This is why you choose your phone’s OEM carefully and select your brand and model to be the one with the least amount of nonsense. Do your research before purchasing your handset hardware; because once you buy the phone…you’re probably gonna be stuck with it for a while. Not all OEMs, brands or models will let you wipe your phone clean and flash a new ROM on it even.
