I’ve seen DDOS attacks launched between rival guilds of MMORPGs. People will find an excuse to be assholes to each other online.
The defederation of Beehaw.org to protect itself is a feature, not a bug. It sucks for the people involved, but I’m liking how the community has managed to come together in light of the actions. Defederating works: it allowed Beehaw.org to ban the trolls and continue their community discussions.
And I say this as a lemmy.world user who was (and still am) cut-off from Beehaw.org. I’d like to get access restored there ASAP, but you know, I’m glad to see that the new tools available here on the Fediverse that didn’t exist in Reddit-world.
Future attacks, invasions, and other such rivalries between communities will only grow bigger, harsher, more serious as time goes on. Consider this whole situation to be just a test of the times to come.
Agreed. There are still more granular tools missing, but a core feature of a federated system is having instances with different ToS, different Codes of Conduct, and when two instances can’t see eye to eye… just defederate and continue business as usual.
On Reddit, mods would ban people “by association” for posting on subreddits they seemed incompatible with theirs… and creating alternate accounts to bypass those bans was considered “ban evasion”, a site-wide offense. That’s not even a concept in the Fediverse.
It might keep happening, but there will inevitably be diminishing returns.
If you DDOS an instance, what effect will that have on other instances? They probably won’t get be able to comment on posts from that intsance, which is pretty much what you already get when the servers get overloaded. Meanwhile, other instances run fine, and they display the last update from that fed (excluding any edits, which are only displayed if you’re on that local fed anyway).
I’m sure it will be a growing problem, however the problem will inherently be localised.
What I really want to see is some way of aligning fed comms across different instances. For example, the “Lemmy” comm, or “AskLemmy” or “Memes” comm could be combined across all Lemmy instances, so long as they are all under the control of the same mod team, or at least a group of teams working together. Federation shouldn’t be completely exclusive and separate, unless it is advantegous to be; there should be the option of combining feds, perhaps not by default but at least if desired. The word “Federation” itself implies a central organisation, made up of separate yet coordinated entities, after all.
This will keep happening.
I’ve seen DDOS attacks launched between rival guilds of MMORPGs. People will find an excuse to be assholes to each other online.
The defederation of Beehaw.org to protect itself is a feature, not a bug. It sucks for the people involved, but I’m liking how the community has managed to come together in light of the actions. Defederating works: it allowed Beehaw.org to ban the trolls and continue their community discussions.
And I say this as a lemmy.world user who was (and still am) cut-off from Beehaw.org. I’d like to get access restored there ASAP, but you know, I’m glad to see that the new tools available here on the Fediverse that didn’t exist in Reddit-world.
Future attacks, invasions, and other such rivalries between communities will only grow bigger, harsher, more serious as time goes on. Consider this whole situation to be just a test of the times to come.
Agreed. There are still more granular tools missing, but a core feature of a federated system is having instances with different ToS, different Codes of Conduct, and when two instances can’t see eye to eye… just defederate and continue business as usual.
On Reddit, mods would ban people “by association” for posting on subreddits they seemed incompatible with theirs… and creating alternate accounts to bypass those bans was considered “ban evasion”, a site-wide offense. That’s not even a concept in the Fediverse.
It might keep happening, but there will inevitably be diminishing returns.
If you DDOS an instance, what effect will that have on other instances? They probably won’t get be able to comment on posts from that intsance, which is pretty much what you already get when the servers get overloaded. Meanwhile, other instances run fine, and they display the last update from that fed (excluding any edits, which are only displayed if you’re on that local fed anyway).
I’m sure it will be a growing problem, however the problem will inherently be localised.
What I really want to see is some way of aligning fed comms across different instances. For example, the “Lemmy” comm, or “AskLemmy” or “Memes” comm could be combined across all Lemmy instances, so long as they are all under the control of the same mod team, or at least a group of teams working together. Federation shouldn’t be completely exclusive and separate, unless it is advantegous to be; there should be the option of combining feds, perhaps not by default but at least if desired. The word “Federation” itself implies a central organisation, made up of separate yet coordinated entities, after all.