"In the richest country in the history of the world, a secure and dignified retirement should be available to every American, not just the extremely wealthy."
Were you putting in a nickel per paycheck? The market has killed it over the last 30 years, even with a relatively low contribution, if you contributed consistently for 30 years you should have way more than that
Either you weren’t contributing for decades, or you literally only contributed $10-$20/mo for ~30 years. If your job provides a 401k option, with tax write-offs and everything else you should have been contributing a lot more to maximize its future utility. This is assuming your employer wasn’t even matching.
Either you aren’t telling us the full details, or you haven’t fully been contributing for decades.
I don’t even know what that is, man. I worked, I didn’t play with stocks.
4th option confirmed. Everyone that has a 401k in some capacity, and isn’t sure how they work, please go check your 401k elections right now. It isn’t really “playing stocks” but just putting it somewhere that isn’t cash equivalent. Otherwise your money is depreciating in value from inflation. This is your chance to learn from WarmSoda’s mistake and hopefully will keep you from making the same mistake!
Figured. A lot of people just straight believe everything they are told and remain ignorant to how things work. If your job offers any type of benefits, fucking read all of the documentation and if you don’t understand something, ASK QUESTIONS! So many people I work with are oblivious to some benefits available to them and when I try to explain, “hey this one thing is basically free money”, they shrug it off. Whatever, your loss.
Look stranger, no one is saying you’re wrong to call out the problems with the economy. Everyone is on your side there.
They’re saying that you personally made a mistake, and that’s one that other people can and should avoid for themselves. If after 45 years you REALLY TRULY only have like $2k USD in your retirement account then you messed up somewhere. That’s almost impossible the way compounding interest works.
Many 401ks are not actually invested by default, it’s up to the account holder to assign those funds themselves. Guessing that’s what happened to you. Unfortunately this isn’t widely known for some reason and companies don’t bother to educate employees about it.
Right right, being called a fucking idiot, accused that I’m lying, absolutely goes along with what you’re saying. I too enjoy blaming the victim. Everyone’s on someone’s side alright.
Living expenses > income. It’s not complicated math. You can’t save when you don’t have enough to live and already putting off things like car repairs, health care, hair cuts, buying clothes…
I think you just figured out why we’re doomed. Don’t assume I have spent my life doing this, I’ve tried to stay out of poverty for most of it. Now that I can, I do. Those who have good pay right after college spend their lives paying in.
The trick is to set aside something, anything, no matter how small, to start. Then whenever you get a raise, set aside part of that so you will never have seen it or spent it.
Your most powerful weapon is not how much you can set aside now, but how early you can start. Investments over the length of your career can turn a little into a lot. Get started now, no matter how small, and use time as your greatest weapon.
Most people here decided they’re better than those with less money than them and it’s fine to blame those less fortunate for “thier mistakes”. It’s pretty depressing.
The only person I see being blamed obviously fucked up their 401k, or is complaining that they added a couple hundred dollars over the course of decades and don’t have a ton of money.
It has nothing to do with them being poor, but with them fucking up and then trying to claim they are the victim.
I’ve always made decent money, so admittedly it has been easy for me, but my first job, on the advice of our security officer (of all people lol) I immediately put 10% of my income into my 401k. So I went from making no money to 90% of what I had negotiated and learned to live on that. Every raise I got, I increased the amount so my raise was smaller, but my savings larger.
Were you putting in a nickel per paycheck? The market has killed it over the last 30 years, even with a relatively low contribution, if you contributed consistently for 30 years you should have way more than that
You go tell my 401k account that.
Either you weren’t contributing for decades, or you literally only contributed $10-$20/mo for ~30 years. If your job provides a 401k option, with tax write-offs and everything else you should have been contributing a lot more to maximize its future utility. This is assuming your employer wasn’t even matching.
Either you aren’t telling us the full details, or you haven’t fully been contributing for decades.
Third option- their rent is $50K per month.
4th option: They don’t know how a 401k works.
https://lemmy.world/comment/8024551
4th option confirmed. Everyone that has a 401k in some capacity, and isn’t sure how they work, please go check your 401k elections right now. It isn’t really “playing stocks” but just putting it somewhere that isn’t cash equivalent. Otherwise your money is depreciating in value from inflation. This is your chance to learn from WarmSoda’s mistake and hopefully will keep you from making the same mistake!
Figured. A lot of people just straight believe everything they are told and remain ignorant to how things work. If your job offers any type of benefits, fucking read all of the documentation and if you don’t understand something, ASK QUESTIONS! So many people I work with are oblivious to some benefits available to them and when I try to explain, “hey this one thing is basically free money”, they shrug it off. Whatever, your loss.
When your bedroom is the Kapua Suite in Hawaii.
You know what you should do? Instead of heeding our warnings you guys should attack us and tell us we’re wrong.
Look stranger, no one is saying you’re wrong to call out the problems with the economy. Everyone is on your side there.
They’re saying that you personally made a mistake, and that’s one that other people can and should avoid for themselves. If after 45 years you REALLY TRULY only have like $2k USD in your retirement account then you messed up somewhere. That’s almost impossible the way compounding interest works.
Many 401ks are not actually invested by default, it’s up to the account holder to assign those funds themselves. Guessing that’s what happened to you. Unfortunately this isn’t widely known for some reason and companies don’t bother to educate employees about it.
Right right, being called a fucking idiot, accused that I’m lying, absolutely goes along with what you’re saying. I too enjoy blaming the victim. Everyone’s on someone’s side alright.
But how? Share some statements or something. This is wild.
I’m guessing they didn’t opt in to invest the money anywhere and let it sit in the account not building anything
I made that mistake with my HSA for a while. I didn’t realize it was like an IRA.
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Not gonna lie it sounds like you fucked up
You were certainly putting in minimums. You should be aiming for 10%-15%.
how the fuck do you set aside 15% of your paycheck to invest in something you won’t see for another third of a century? you mansa musa or something?
I am so confused here–this is what you do to prepare for the future. I guess you could blow it on women or something.
Living expenses > income. It’s not complicated math. You can’t save when you don’t have enough to live and already putting off things like car repairs, health care, hair cuts, buying clothes…
no i mean who HAS 15% of their paycheck available to spend. i ain’t bill gates, i have FOOD and RENT
I think you just figured out why we’re doomed. Don’t assume I have spent my life doing this, I’ve tried to stay out of poverty for most of it. Now that I can, I do. Those who have good pay right after college spend their lives paying in.
The trick is to set aside something, anything, no matter how small, to start. Then whenever you get a raise, set aside part of that so you will never have seen it or spent it.
Your most powerful weapon is not how much you can set aside now, but how early you can start. Investments over the length of your career can turn a little into a lot. Get started now, no matter how small, and use time as your greatest weapon.
Most people here decided they’re better than those with less money than them and it’s fine to blame those less fortunate for “thier mistakes”. It’s pretty depressing.
The only person I see being blamed obviously fucked up their 401k, or is complaining that they added a couple hundred dollars over the course of decades and don’t have a ton of money.
It has nothing to do with them being poor, but with them fucking up and then trying to claim they are the victim.
I’ve always made decent money, so admittedly it has been easy for me, but my first job, on the advice of our security officer (of all people lol) I immediately put 10% of my income into my 401k. So I went from making no money to 90% of what I had negotiated and learned to live on that. Every raise I got, I increased the amount so my raise was smaller, but my savings larger.
This is how you make it work.